Sri Sarva Shastrartha Thatvatjyaya Namaha,

(Shastratthin Anaithu Porulayum (meanings) Ulladhu Ullapadi Arinndhu Vaitthu irukkum Swami Ramanujarai Vanangukiraen)

Sri Dasarathiye Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

Dear Bakthas,

Yes, Bakthas answer matches Sri Velukkudi Swami’s past Answer-2 category.

Based on Swami’s past Answers, adiyen think that, since Baktha is ‘Pleasing’ BhagavAn by continuing the Karma-Anushtanams whereever the Baktha is present (outside Karma Bhoomi),

A) the Baktha can “THINK IN MIND” as if living in “Karma Bhoomi” while doing the Sankalpam outside India and continue family members way of sankalpam “jambudwipa, bharata varshe, bharata kande”, since it ‘matches‘ the sankalpam as done in India as per Swami’s Answer-2a & 2c, and try to follow as much as possible of 2b, &/or

B) Follow what the Baktha’s “individual” PARATHANTRAN ACHARYAN says for sankalpam as per Swami’s Answer-3, since we cannot bend Shastric rules and make a new sankalpam based on our own judgement based on circumstances. If Acharyan of that particular Baktha says to follow a particular Sankalpam, then that is what “Perumal will be Pleased”, since Acharyan is Perumal’s another Avataram.

At the same time, the baktha need not confuse themselves with many sankalpams and don’t interfere in the local Temple sankalpams or other people sankalpams and try to correct them, since we don’t know what would be Answer-3 for that particular Baktha from his own Acharyan.

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Here is the detailed explanation with due diligence. If Bakta has time, then please read.

Adiyen has heard Sri Velukkudi Swami mentioning couple of scenarios in different discourses and some in Enpani Audios. Adiyen will try as best as possible to SHARE the answers referencing Swami’s pravachanams with Acharya blessings.

Adiyens ‘observation’ is that, there are ALWAYS three types of VALID ANSWERS for ANY question. But adiyen Don’t have any Pramaanam to support this classification, but the three types of Answers are very true for any question.

* Answer-1 based on “Gyanam” [‘Valid’ Hard Answer is received, if we DON’T project our HELPLESSNESS (due to ‘Ahambhavam/Aanavam’)].

* Answer-2 based on “Sneha Poorva Gyanam” [‘Valid’ Tender Answer (neither Hard nor Soft) is received, if we project our curosity to know the answer in order to ‘FOLLOW’ with Submissiveness/Humbleness (due to ‘Panivu/Thannadakkam’)].

*Answer-3 based on “Karunai” [‘Valid’ Soft Answer is received, if we project our HELPLESSNES (due to ‘Iyalaamai’)].

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Now coming to the question, Sri Velukkudi Swami has answered about doing any “Karma-Anushtanams” outside Karma Bhoomi (Bharata Kandam) in the above three ANSWER formats in the past at ‘different timings’ as below. This question ‘Sankalpam’ is one of the item that falls under the category of “Karma-Anushtanams” outside Karma Bhoomi.

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Answer-1 based on “Gyanam”(What Perumal’s Only “SHASTRAS” says about it):

(‘Valid’ Hard Answer is received, if we DON’T project our HELPLESSNESS (Ahambhavam/Aanavam)).

Once any Brahman crosses ocean, then the Brahman loses his ‘Varna Ashrama Dharmam’ and is In-Eligible to do any ‘Vaidhika Karmas as per Sanatana Dharmam’, since we have done “Anishtam Seikai (Perumal says, not to cross ocean, but we did against Perumal Will). So, creating our own method (which ‘Kande’, which Dwepa’ etc…) other than what is said in Shastras is not acceptable by Perumal. So we need to do “Prayaschittam” for crossing ocean and further stop violating Shastras, which means after Prayaschittam, be in “Bharata Kande” and continue the Vaidhika karmas as per Sanatana Dharmam. If the intention of Sankalpam is to ‘PLEASE’ Perumal, then Perumal gets pleased only when Karma-Anushtanams as per HIS Shastras are followed.

Swami’s Answer-1 in this Dharma Sandeha forum under topic “Foreign Tour”.

https://www.kinchit.org/dharma-sandeha/thread/foreign-tour/

“Yes. Crossing ocean and visiting other countries is a violation of sastra.

Prayaschittam is prescribed. But you would agree with me that prayaschittam is

effective only when the violation stops. Exception cannot become a rule. So if

we decide not to cross again, then Sethu snanam and krucchra dhanam there is the

remedy. “

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Answer-2  based on “Gyanam and Sneham” (What Perumal’s “SHASTRAS & KARUNAI” together says about it):

(‘Valid’ Tender Answer is received, if we project our HELPLESNESS and also show the curosity to know the answer to FOLLOW with Submissiveness/humbleness (Panivu/Thannadakkam)).

Swami’s Answer-2 is based on a English Q&A session between Swami and Baktha’s, when one of the Baktha asked Swami about:

Question by a Baktha: ” Is Karma-Anushtanams need to be done only in India, since India is Karma Bhoomi. We are far from India. So all the Kainkaryams that we do, where will it go?, since we are in Bhoga Bhoomi and not in Karma Bhoomi. Kindly answer what we should do?.”

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Swami’s Reply:

All Karma-Anushtanams done in Bharata Desam will INDEED result in GOOD DEEDS and give Fruits. That doesn’t mean we shouldnot do any Karma-Anushtanams if we are in Bhoga Bhoomi or anywhere outside India.

Whereever we are, either in Bharata desa or outside, we should keep doing our:

* Nithya Anushtana

* Nithya Anusandhana

* Nithya Aaradhana.

These has to be done whereever we are present. When we do these, “the factor of Karma-Bhoomi is not applicable there”.

For dhanam, dharmam, pitrukaryam, it is true that places like Gayaa, Kasi are only accepted as Punya Bhoomi or Karma Bhoomi. One has to perform that particular rituals only there. But if we are outside India, doesn’t mean we can stop performing any Karma-Anushtanams. Ofcourse BhagavAn is pleased if Gayaa Sharadham or Badrikaashrama Pinda pradhanam is performed in these punya places.

So here is what I would request to those who live outside India:

2a) Perform the Aaradhana and Karmas without fail as prescribed in Shastras, &

2b) Whenever they come to India, go to that specific punya place and perform there.

2c) Even-if we are performing it outside India, atleast THINK IN MIND that we are performing the ritual in the Punya places as prescribed in Shastras.

We have to get only best out of the current situation possible. So if you follow these a) , b) and c), then “BhagavAn WILL CERTAINLY BE PLEASED”.

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Swami Reply to the Baktha’s particular question Ends.

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Answer-3 based on “Sneham/Premam” (What Perumal’s Only “KARUNAI/Mercy” in the form of “ACHARYA (Ramanuja) Avataram” says about it):

(‘Valid’ Soft Answer is received, if we project our HELPLESSNES (Iyalaamai)).

Swami in Enpani #182 “Validity of Shastric Rules”, says

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” there are questions that many Shastric rules that were applicable on old days couldn’t be followed now due to circumstances. So we start thinking, can we change Shastric rules based on our own circumstances like crossing ocean, which food to eat etc…”

We don’t have any authoirty to change Shastric rules set by BhagavAn.

Only Madathipadhikal, Acharya Purushas have AUTHORITY to discuss and come to a conclusion about which Shastric rules can be applied in currrent Circumstantial situations, since many couldn’t be followed, and which could be adjusted”.

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Swami also has said in another discourse about “Shastra Vazhiyal Acharyan (Ramanujar) Manadhal/MOZHIYAL”

Which means, there are many Shastric rules which cannot be followed by us due to “our ignorance and incapability”. So Acharyan with HIS MIND (Manadhal) will pick which Shastric rule (Shastra Vazhiyal) can be given to a particular Shisya based on the ‘Shisyas ABILITY’ and Acharyan will instruct by SPEECH (Mozhiyal) to do it, and we don’t need to focus on all, since we are incapable of doing all. But, first thing we have to do, is to “repent for what we cannot do and fall on Acharyan lotus feet (Sharanam)”, then Perumal is PLEASED.

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Sri Velukkudi Swami to forgive adiyen, if adiyen deviated from Swami’s Pravachanams.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Adiyen Acharya Dasan,

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,

Snanam Seyyamal Puzhudhiyudan Irukkum SriKrishna BhagavAn ki Jai.

Sri,:
Dhanyosmi Mataji
“A) the Baktha can “THINK IN MIND” as if living in “Karma Bhoomi”

This shows Velukkudi Krishnan Swami doing anugraham to adiyen.

Swamy may be answering from adiyen’s Athma level who knows 🙂

Happy adiyen
Dasanudasan

For those in foreign ,
Adiyen have heard this prayasthitham from one of vaideeka Swamy

To respond to this:
“Once any Brahman crosses ocean, then the Brahman loses his ‘Varna Ashrama Dharmam’ and is In-Eligible to do any ‘Vaidhika Karmas as per Sanatana Dharmam’, since we have done “Anishtam Seikai (Perumal says, not to cross ocean, but we did against Perumal Will). ”

Response: Come back to India and do Sethu SnAnam (Sri Ram Sethu Ocean bath).

This will releive from all sins.

Adiyen asked:
Q: How come you go abroad and do vaitheekam?
Vaideeka Swamy:
A: Sethu snAnam pannA pochu!

Secondly udayavar said ” Aasai udayorku ellaam ”
So, why fear when Perumal is here?

Adiyen feel the moment adiyen stepped into western culture my brahminism is gone. Then what about partial adherence?

There are many such statements.
“A BRAHMIN SHOULD DIP INTO WATER TILL HIS HEAD SINKS MINIMUM 3 MONTHS ONCE” – My appa said.

So adiyen see many going to Kaveri and such rivers taking bath at least once by head dipping to retain brahminism or brahmanatvam.

If not, people take bath from well water including Acharya puushAs. You can see well in all AshramAs wherever there is no river nearby.

At least adiyen have noticed it.

In Madras water condition bathing fully with 10 mugs of water in flats system completely uproots our existence.

To brush teeth we have dhandha dhavanam mantra. How many of us say?

Sri Ram used to tell mantra while plucking leaves from plants!!!

Sandhya vandhavan
3 times a must.

We have left mAdhyAnikam for our convenience since we wear shoes and go to office rest room and don’t wash our feets and back feet (pinnankaal). FINISHED!

Panna fulla pannanum that’s what adiyen feel. So epdiyum meeritom so Perumal adhaiyum serthu mannipaar.

But but but keeping all these in mind we should NOT loose hope “YaTha Shakthi:” mudindha varai follow pannanum.

Kshamikka PrArthikkiren
Dasanudasan

All spelling mistakes attributed to auto correct issues

Errata:
*AchArya PurushAs
*SandhyAvandhanam
*Relieve

Any other mistakes please forgive

Any pandithar with superior knowledge trying to point out spelling mistakes and willing to start arguments like other forums, not sure if you will get response from adiyen. Adiyen have seen enough of these, so please excuse in advance.

For example:
Once adiyen wrote in Orkut
SwAmi VEdhandha Desikan’s thirunakshatram

Soldradhey English (AdhuvEy thappu) idhula pronunciation engerndhu vandhadhu?

One high end sophisticated Swami started saying ” How dare you say VEdhandha”.

Andha means blind. So vEdandha means blind to Vedas.

TheriyAma sollitten birthday celebration mood pochu.

Dasanudasan

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Thanks Baktha for sharing additional information.

Exactly said about UDAYAVAR. The ideal situation to keep getting Acharya Ramanujar blessings/karunai, is to keep projecting our ‘iyalaamai’ with submisiveness. So Adiyen’s favorite is the Answer-3 type “Shastra Vazhiyal Acharyan (Ramanujar) Manadhal/Mozhiyal” (‘Do what Acharyan likes and Don’t do what Acharyan don’t like’, since Acharyan is BhagavAn Avataram).

In one of Upanyasam, adiyen has heard Swami mentioning about “other languages are all welcome if we can communicate BhagavAt Vishayam through any language”, without forgetting the base languages (Sanskrit or Tamil etc..) where the Vedas/ Divya Prabhandhams are written. So adiyen would refrain using the word “Mleccha Bhasha” for any language, since language is an ‘Achit’, let it survive and we are communicating through that language presently for sharing BhagavAt Vishayam.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Adiyen Acharya Dasan,
Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan.

Loka Samastha Sukhino BhavAnthu
Sarvam SriKrishna Kudumbam

Hare Krishna! Aneha Koti Namaskaram!

@Vikram Swami – Adiyen is not quite following this discussion however below words (and the style in which Swami conveys the message) caught the attention. Manasula ninuteenga Swami 🙂

“We have left mAdhyAnikam for our convenience since we wear shoes and go to office rest room and don’t wash our feets and back feet (pinnankaal). FINISHED!”

Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu!