Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Dasanudasan
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Dasanudasan
Could you please remove this isckon rubbish from our RAMANUJA-SAMPRADAYA forum? I am visiting this forum for Ramanuja-Siddhanta. Don’t you know that isckon ideas are anti-vaishnava? Hare-krishnas believe in Chaitanya being a Yuga-Avatara, though we all know that Lord Narayana is TRIYUGA, so isckon’s Chaitanya is false avatara!!!!! Krishnaites also offend Vaikuntha, because they consider Vaikuntha to be under Goloka. And krishnaites don’t respect Narayana-Mantras and Vishishta-Adwaita. I don’t want to see even the trace of isckon rubbish here. Please don’t post isckon notorious sect content here!!!!!!!!
Ramanuja Vedanta swamy, namaskaram.
I beg to differ, please.
I have heard from our Velukkudi swamy that we need to accord due respect to the followers of Gaudiya Vaishnavam because they have effectively taken the message of Vaishnavism to every nook and corner of the World.
Today the whole world has a better understanding of and more respect for ‘Hinduism’ (Sanatana dharma); a significant credit for this belongs to members of this organisation.
The core philosophy of Gaudiya Vaishnavas and Sri Vaishnavas are the same; there are some small differences in the details. But, to the best of my understanding, the mutual differences are not mutually offensive.
One very simple reason I am amazed about followers of Gaudiya Vaishnavam is
I respect theists.
Among them, I respect faiths which believe in a God who is a person (and not limit God to an abstract “Energy” kind of description).
Among them, I respect for Sanatana dharma adherents
Among them I respect Vaishnavas
Among them I respect those who have taken exclusive shelter (saranagathas) of our Lord
Of these, I personally subscribe to Ramanuja sampradaya.
I draw my significant line of distinction at at the level of Vaishnavas. That is the example set by our acharyas too.
Our sampradaya acharyas have great respect for Caitanya Mahaprabhu as an acharya; whether Caitanya Mahaprabhu is an avatar of Krishna or not, our acharyas don’t engage in arguments about that. One time, when one of the followers made a condescending comment about Gaudiya Vaishnavas in front of one of our Srivaishnava Acharaya, the Acharya immediately corrected the person saying “no, no! their philosophy comes from Nimai’s time”. Thus he expressed his personal admiration for Caitanya Mahaprabhu! (Nimai is another address for Caitanya Mahaprabhu).
Personally for me, I have great respect for the followers of Gaudiya Vaishnavam for one fundamental reason: even at beginners level they are very strict in following what they call “regulative principles”: they do not eat non-prasadam; they do not consume even coffee, tea, etc. Despite our Velukkudi Swamy mentioning about the bad effects of coffee and tea, many SriVaishnavas (even some of the saranagathas) are unable to give up such habits. Even when they go for for yatras with our Swamy, they continue their tea-coffee habit. In light of this, it is a great amazement that the followers of Gaudiya Vaishnavam are able to give up such habits even at the beginning level, simply based on the strength of their daily routine of chanting a fixed number of rounds of our Lord’s name everyday.
If we keeping focusing on small differences ignoring the common factor holding us together and helping us practise our respective faiths, we will end of offending a large number of individuals and thus end up displeasing our Perumal. For that matter, there are differences between Vadakalais and Thenkalais also! Even within the two kalais there are further differences.
There may be some examples of improper (notorious) activities by some individuals in that organisation; but such examples exist in our sampradaya followers too. So, it is better to see that as mistake of those individuals and not as a fault of the sampradaya itself.
It may be surprising! but many sincere and ardent followers of this forum have actually taken to serious practise of SriVaishnavism after a brief exposure to Gaudiya Vaishnavism. So, the credit of returning SriVaishnavam born people back to sincere practise of our faith goes to Gaudiya Vaishnavas!
In many places, when I walk with our Sri Vaishnava Thiruman kappu, the Gaudiya Vaishnavas offer very special respect. They have great regard for Ramanuja Sampradayam.
ஒன்று பட்டால் உண்டு வாழ்வு.
Caitanya Mahaprabhu ki Jai
adiyen Ramanuja dasan.
correction: Please ignore this one sentence from the above passage: “One very simple reason I am amazed about followers of Gaudiya Vaishnavam is “. It got inserted out of place
adiyen.
I am visiting this forum for Ramanuja-Siddhanta
Ramanuja Vedanta swamy, I fully agree to this; yes, we all are here to discuss and improve our understanding of our existence based on the philosophy presented by our Bhasyakaarar. There is no doubt about it. I didn’t even try hearing the video link posted here.
However, I do beg to differ with the negative perception about fellow Vaishnavas. My whole reply above is focused on this aspect.
adiyen dasan.
My post is not a reply in this thread and only my experience.
I am just reminded of an incident taken place about 15+ years back.
I went to Hyderabad for treatment and happened to meet The International President of ISKCON. I met him 7 days and took his blessings.
adiyen
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Swamy,
If possible adiyen will delete all my threads. Unfortunately Kinchit does not allow creator to delete own threads or own comments like other forums
We can ask for feature requests.
Okay
All close your ears esp. Kambandasan Swamy
One Iskcon bhaktha is saying “Hare Rama Hare Krishna”.
We should not listen to Rama nama or Krishna nama
First we should evaluate who he is
Then listen to nama sankeerthanam
Beautiful Ramanuja Sampradayam 👏👏👏👏
Dasanudasan
I see the problem here,
“I am stuck in-between a group of intellectuals” – Vikram Srinivasan
One Iskcon devotee/guru said:
“Discard money”
I asked “What about donations, how will Iskcon survive?”
With intended sarcasm
He simply said:
“We are surviving by Krishna Consciousness”
Krishna made me the fool as usual 😊
Let me remain foolish & Ignorant
By the way they are true to their sampradhayam and we are NOT
Sanskrit theriyadhu
Thamizh theriyadhu
English kaaran Sanskrit kathuthundu upanyasam seiyaraan
Adha solla vandha
Inga Orey sandai
Dasanudasan