Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

“Anybody (from B/K/V varna) who fails to do the ‘nitya karmAs’ of ‘veda adhyayanam (at least a few verses), aupAsanam, agnihotram, and sandhyAvandanam’ would automatically fall into the 4th varna for all practical purposes”

My appa used to say, failing to dip yourself including head into a water body for 3 consecutive status loses Brahmin status

This adiyen mentioned several times in Dharma Sandeha.

Also those who cross ocean is NOT A BRAHMIN. Have you seen any jeeyar crossing ocean?

Romba paatha mudiyadhu. Madras la thanni vararadhey Kashtam.

YathA Shakthi, mudinja varaikkum follow pannuvom

Dasanudasan

Consecutive *months

@Srivats swamy,

Thank you for linking.

I came across the point mentioned by you already.

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Nice analogy Swamy. I agree on the interconnection to an extent.

“Anybody who had been maintaining Agni, can’t go out of home for a longer period, hence there is no question of traveling abroad”

Adiyen beg to disagree. How then people went to yatra to tirumala & other long distance Divya kshetras by walk on olden days?in fact yatrigan used to stay for minimum three days in a Divya Desam those days.

There should be exceptions or alternatives specified. It includes management of shaligramam aathu Perumal.

Dasanudasan

After Ram construct the bridge how can we call India to SriLanka as ocean crossing? 🤔

How then people went to yatra to tirumala & other long distance Divya kshetras by walk on olden days?in fact yatrigan used to stay for minimum three days in a Divya Desam those days.From vikraminside

I think these vidhis are outlined in the relevant Grihya and Srauta sutras, like what happens during ‘KshetrAdanam’ and what is the prAyaschittam, etc.

After Ram construct the bridge how can we call India to SriLanka as ocean crossing? From vikraminside

True, but for all practical purposes, today we cannot reach Lanka without crossing the ocean!

” prAyaschittam ” for what , visiting Divya desams? 😊

My dad told if we happen to visit Shiva temples we need to wash our legs because it’s equivalent to visit rudra bhumi

Thirupullani is an exception. Technically we cannot stand on sea shore & wash legs by sea wave usually but Thirupallani snanam is punyam.

Adhan sonnen romba shAstram paatha mudiyadhu.

prAyaschittam ” for what , visiting Divya desams? From vikraminside

PrAyaschittam is applicable only if the sacred fire gets extinguished during our absence, otherwise nothing! 

My dad told if we happen to visit Shiva temples we need to wash our legs because it’s equivalent to visit rudra bhumiFrom vikraminside

Yes, I do remember! But the story told to me was a little different at my home. Because ‘MahAdevan’ dwells in smasAnam, if not kuliyal, at least ‘kaal alambal’ is required. 

– Adiyen

Yes SmaShAnam only Rudra Bhumi. Adhai dhan different terminology la sonnen 😊
Dasanudasan

” PrAyaschittam is applicable only if the sacred fire gets extinguished during our absence, otherwise nothing! ” – yes Swamy, I understood it was a kind of a joke from my side. Yes, that Agni has to be maintained.

The shape / dimension of that homa kundam also specified. Some triangle & square shaped. I heard in Dushyant Sridhar Swamy upanyasam.

Do you remember, Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy once told, when we do Nithya Karma like Sandhyavandhanam, when Perumal utsavar comes on the road in front of our house, we should prioritise Perumal over Nithya Karma.

Dasanudasan

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

“Aupasana,” we are doing a formality before shraddham etc. Indeed we are doing. We are not Vedic brought up. Of course we are bound to have confusions.

Regarding cremation, my Iyengar friend told aupasana Agni used for father cremation in last rites.

I heard different story though prior to this.

Each Agni is different
* Marriage Agni
* Death Agni

Then how come aupasana can be used on father’s rites? 🤔

Best to reach out to our Acharya and do as prescribed. Else we will be lost in vicious cycle “am I right or not?” .

We cannot self pity forever.

Dasanudasan

We are not Vedic brought up.From vikraminside

Why does Vikram Swami say so? I believe you meant ‘we’ as ‘individuals (all of us)’ and not ‘we’ as our whole sampradAyam itself?

Regarding cremation, my Iyengar friend told aupasana Agni used for father cremation in last rites.From vikraminside

This is what I have also heard. It is the same agni that had been used in the marriage ritual, had been used for ‘Antyeshti’ too. In fact, I have read that even for mundane domestic fire requirements, it had been used.

“Aupasana,” we are doing a formality before shraddham etc.From vikraminside

Yes, Swami! In fact, even before the cremation of a corpse, aupAsanam is done as a formality I believe!

– Adiyen

We = Naamba rendu perum

We = Naamba rendu perumFrom vikraminside

That’s right, Agreed !

– Adiyen