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Swamy, EnPan 2678, more confused, aruvam becoming uruvam or aruvam also uruvam?

Updated on December 11, 2022 in Holy Books
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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

Uruvam illadhavarey kaatchi kudu. Apdi sonna, Perumaloda primary form Aruvam endru aagi vidaadha?

Aruvam is getting manifested into divya mangala roopam means

will it not lead to advaitam becoming true because Shankarar said “Manifested” as low and “unmanifested” as high

Everything will become nirvisesham or nirAkAram

Swamy, adiyenukku devareer responsil udan paadu illai.

It’s not adiyen trying to prove my point but genuinely want to understand what is the concept?

Kannuku Pula padadhavarey vera
Uruvam illadhavarey vera

Micro organism kuda “na chakusey” dhan in a way

Namma kannukku Shakthi illa

Swamy, please guide me properly.

This response leading to more confusion to adiyen.

Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on December 11, 2022

Swamy

Ipdi kekkaren

Avlo kashta pattu aruvuamAi irukkum perumalukku

Uruvam kudukka solli sevikka vendiya avasiyam enna?

Unna na aruvamAvEy nenachukkaren!!!

Oh “aruvam cannot be perceived”

So uruvam kaatta sollanumA?

So, uruvam, namakkAga dhAn

NammAzhWAr has declared PerumAL as aruvam

Ipdi visishiAdvathathula enga solli irukku ?

The name VishistAdvaitam itself adiyen know because of Velukkudi Swamy now Swamy himself confusing adiyen

Adiyen want to remind my dear Velukkudi Swamy as “Name & meaning ” were co-existing eternally. Ipdi dhan solli kuduthel

So what is the name & meaning for aruvam?

Is it just for chakshu? – Eyes?
For all senses? Correct?

AgrAhyan nu solli irukkey Swamy?

Pulangalukku aga padAdhavan endru dhAney artham?

So, namma punalgala vechu Perumalukku
Uruvam undu kidaiyAdhu endru baseline pannuvadhu

Eppadi sari aagum Swamy?

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vikraminside 0 on December 11, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

PerumAlOda swaroopam uruvamA aruvamA?

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vikraminside 0 on December 11, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

If Aruvam is “Formless” as per devareer
Why can’t be NirguNam as GuNam less?

Adhukku mattum,

Gunangal attravan kidaiyAdhu
KalyANa GuNangal porindiyavan
Ketta GuNangal attravan

Endru pirikka vEndiya avasiyam enna?

If Aruvam has direct meaning formless
Nirvisesham also direct meaning visEshamless
NirGuNam is GuNamless direct meaning

Swamy,
Please don’t play with adiyen

You are hiding something from adiyen to give me nose cut

Dasanudasan

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Sundara Ramanuja dasan 1 on December 11, 2022

Swamy, namaskaram 🙏

You can find all the answers for your questions from the following interview between sri dushyant sridhar swamy and rangaraj pandey 👇🏻👇🏻

https://youtu.be/YgxlmpYE01Qarz

Dushyant sridhar swamy clearly says, ” இறைவனுடைய உருவங்களில் அருவமும் ஒரு உருவம் ”

Hope you understood 🙏

Adiyen ramanuja dasan 🙏🏻

vikraminside on December 11, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

Adiyen’s question was based on that Dushyath’s reply only Swamy. Also shared the same in this thread.

My question, how “Aruvam” portrayed in VishistAdvaitam?

Adiyen not so comfortable with Dushyanth’s answer.
He said “Formless” also a “form”.

Adiyen checked in forums , “Subtle form” is how our VishistAdvaitam portrays so-called “formless” Brahmam.

Name of formless Brahmam in SriVaishnavsim

Sri Dushyanth Sridhar Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

pAsuram
உளன் எனில் உளன் அவன் உருவம் இவ்வுருவுகள்
உளன் அலன் எனில் அவன் அருவம் இவ்வருவுகள்
உளன் என இலன் என இவை குணம் உடைமையில்
உளன் இரு தகைமையொடு ஒழிவிலன் பரந்தே

uLan enil uLan avan uruvam ivvuruvugaL
uLan alan enil avan aruvam ivvaruvugaL
uLan ena ilan ena ivai guNam udaimaiyil
uLan iru thagailmaiyodu ozhivilan paranthE

AzhwAr tells a sUnyavAdhi “You cannot prove bhagavAn‘s non-existence through his presence or absence. In general, bhAvam (presence) or abhAvam (absence) of an entity/attribute is based on the place, time and form. When we say bhagavAn is present, that means he is present within gross forms which are visible and when say bhagavAn is absent, that means he is present within subtle forms which are invisible.

Here formless is referred as Subtle form

Those who say he is formless
Please read VishistAdvaitam properly & come back here.

http://divyaprabandham.koyil.org/index.php/2015/04/thiruvaimozhi-1-1-9-ulan-enil-ulan/

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