Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sti Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
If I accept everything as God’s play, how will there be change & improvement?
The sense of contention won’t it lead to immutability?
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Dasanudasan
Your question seems to be a deep question. Kinldy elaborate a little more to facilitate some discussion on this important question. Please elaborate your question some more to make தயிர் கடைதல் more interesting.
Thank you.
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Swamy,
Adiyen asked a simple question with jugglery of words. Nowadays talking like this is a fashion so everyone will say “ahA ohO” 😁
Coming to question, we know everything is BhagavAn’s leelai. So adiyen will feel whatever is happening is because of him.
If there is a mud road adiyen won’t make it to think thar road for better transportation.
No new inventions. No new innovations.
As we are supposed to beleive everything is per his order
So jata bharathar mAdhiri irundhAl
Loka vyavahArathukku othu varumA?
Avlo dhAn no big matter
Adiyen an empty vessel was trying to make more noise
Dasanudasan
If I accept everything as God’s play, how will there be change & improvement?
If we really accept everything is as per God’s play then there is no need for any change; there is no room for any improvement. Because when we really accept everything is as per God’s play then we are already back in Vaikuntha which is saashvatham (eternal)… unlike this material world which is ‘dukhalayam asaashvatam’ (full of trouble and ever changing). Once in Vaikuntha what is there to ‘improve’ there? Everthing is at its best!
The sense of contention won’t it lead to immutability?
Like avikAran
Yes, the sense of satisfaction in our service to Perumal will lead to a state where we will not want to change from there at all. AvikAran is the correct word indeed.
அவ்யக்தோ-அயம் அசிந்த்யோ-அயம் அவிகார்யோ-அயம் உச்யதே
தஸ்மாதேவம் விதித்வைநம் நாநு சோசிதும் அர்ஹஸி – (ப கீ 2.25)
“ஜீவன் ஐம்புலங்களுக்கு எட்டாதவன். மனத்தினால் சிந்திக்க முடியாதவன். மாறுதல் இல்லாதவன் என சொல்லப்பட்டிருக்கிறது அர்ஜுன! இவ்வாறு நீ அவனை தெரிந்து கொண்டு, ஜீவாத்மாவைப் பற்றி சோகிக்க வேண்டியதில்லை.”
So, when jeevan really understands everything is Perumal then he returns back to his unchangeable position of eternal service to Him. The jeevan regains his memory of his original immutable state.
So adiyen will feel whatever is happening is because of him.
If there is a mud road adiyen won’t make it to think thar road for better transportation. No new inventions. No new innovations.
Yes, that is what people of satya yuga did. They accepted the conditions around as Perumal’s arrangement and simply focused on the goal of life. In contrast we have come to think that we have to change the nature; normal simple road is not sufficient; we have to spoil the earth layer, prevent rain water from getting in, make it miserable for other animals (eg. less grazing space), increase reflective heat in the atmosphere because of tar and concrete roads, create heat islands, and then complain about global warming. Only solace is, we can name our road “பசுமை சாலை”.
On the otherhand, if we really accept that Perumal is everything and everything is by Perumal and everything is for Perumal’s kainkaryam, then we have no need for the so called innovations; whatever we need for our kainaryam is already available. Even if not readily available the Kalpa vrshams in Vaikuntha will be happy to provide whatever we need.
If I accept everything as God’s play, how will there be change & improvement?
If we really accept everything is as per God’s play then there is no need for any change; there is no room for any improvement. Because when we really accept everything is as per God’s play then we are already back in Vaikuntha which is saashvatham (eternal)… unlike this material world which is ‘dukhalayam asaashvatam’ (full of trouble and ever changing). Once in Vaikuntha what is there to ‘improve’ there? Everthing is at its best!
The sense of contention won’t it lead to immutability?
Like avikAran
Yes, the sense of satisfaction in our service to Perumal will lead to a state where we will not want to change from there at all. AvikAran is the correct word indeed.
அவ்யக்தோ-அயம் அசிந்த்யோ-அயம் அவிகார்யோ-அயம் உச்யதே
தஸ்மாதேவம் விதித்வைநம் நாநு சோசிதும் அர்ஹஸி – (ப கீ 2.25)
“ஜீவன் ஐம்புலங்களுக்கு எட்டாதவன். மனத்தினால் சிந்திக்க முடியாதவன். மாறுதல் இல்லாதவன் என சொல்லப்பட்டிருக்கிறது அர்ஜுன! இவ்வாறு நீ அவனை தெரிந்து கொண்டு, ஜீவாத்மாவைப் பற்றி சோகிக்க வேண்டியதில்லை.”
So, when jeevan really understands everything is Perumal then he returns back to his unchangeable position of eternal service to Him. The jeevan regains his memory of his original immutable state.
So adiyen will feel whatever is happening is because of him.
If there is a mud road adiyen won’t make it to think thar road for better transportation. No new inventions. No new innovations.
Yes, that is what people of satya yuga did. They accepted the conditions around as Perumal’s arrangement and simply focused on the goal of life. In contrast we have come to think that we have to change the nature; normal simple road is not sufficient; we have to spoil the earth layer, prevent rain water from getting in, make it miserable for other animals (eg. less grazing space), increase reflective heat in the atmosphere because of tar and concrete roads, create heat islands, and then complain about global warming. Only solace is, we can name our road “பசுமை சாலை”.
On the otherhand, if we really accept that Perumal is everything and everything is by Perumal and everything is for Perumal’s kainkaryam, then we have no need for the so called innovations; whatever we need for our kainaryam is already available. Even if not readily available the Kalpa vrshams in Vaikuntha will be happy to provide whatever we need.
So jata bharathar mAdhiri irundhAl
Loka vyavahArathukku othu varumA?
அவர் இந்த லோக வ்யவஹாரத்துல தான் ஏதோ சாதிக்கனும்கற எண்ணம் இல்லாம இருந்தார்; வைகுண்டம் போய்டார்! சாதிக்கனும்னு நினைகறவா இங்கேயே உலன்றுகொண்டிருக்க வேண்டியதுதான்.
I pray to my ahcaryan and all vaishnavas that I should really reach this full understanding that everything is indeed Perumal’s play in this life time itself. Only that will remove my ahamkaram and mamakaram and kartaa-aham attitudes.
adiyen dasan.
Srimate Ramanujaye Namaha!
Namasakaaram Swamis.
Yes the question is very broad at this stage.
But in summary, everything happening is either due to jeeva’s karma or due to God’s leela (play). In cases where others are involved it is not necessary to know which category it is. We cannot change them and we can just do the needful to protect our own service.
In cases where we are involved we can attribute all good as Lord’s Leela and all bad/discomforting situations as our karma..(safe and best recourse to classify so..) So we can change ourselves accordingly as per Acharaya’s instructions.
Adiyen.
