Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Thiruvadigalaey Sharanam,
அருமையான உரையாடல்கள் அவரவருடைய ஆசார்யன் க்ருபயால்.
அடியார்கள் வாழ அரங்கநகர் வாழ ஸ்ரீவெளுக்குடி கிருஷ்ணன் ஸ்வாமியே இன்னும் ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு இரும்.
Swami says Perumal as “Urangubhavan Pol Yogu Seyyum Perumal / உறங்குபவன் போல் யோகு செய்யும் பெருமாள் “(Perumal looks like Sleeping, but always thinks about us ‘the BhaddhAthmas’ in Samsaram and thinks about different ways to ‘tame and bring’ HIS countless JeevAthmas (Sotthu/Property) from Samsaram (Leelai Vibhoithi) to SriVaikuntam (Nithya Vibhoothi).
Swami says,
– NithyaSooris in SriVaikuntam as Padukaranan (means JeevAthmas who is NOT at all handicapped with karmas), and
– BhaddhaAthmas in Samsaram as Vikalakaranan (means JeevaAthmas who is handicapped ♿ with karmas, all of us).
So Divya Dhampadhis (Thayar-Perumal) eyes and affection/care/attention is ALWAYS on the child who is Vikalakaranan (us BhaddhaAthmas) rather than the child who is Padukaranan (Nithyasooris), since Padukaranan (non handicapped) child don’t have any kurai/deficiency. So Perumal-Thayar attention is less on them, and THEY keep more care/attention/affection on Vikalakaranan (handicapped/trapped in samsaram) child like us. So Thayar Perumal KARUNAI nammidatthil mattum dhaan YEPPAVUM ADHIKAMA irukkumதயார் பெருமாள் கருணை நம்ம போன்றவர்களிடம் மட்டும் தான் எப்பவும் அதிகமா போன்றவர்களிட. இருக்கும் when compared to nithyasooris.
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Adiyen will tell the truth about BhagavAtas Conclusion
“உங்கள் மூலம் அடியேனுக்கும், அடியேன் மூலம் தங்களுக்கும் பகவான் எதோ உணர்த்துகிறார் என்பது தெளிவு”.
Here we go,
இதுவும், ஸ்ரீவெளுக்குடி. கிருஷ்ணன் ஸ்வாமியின் லீலை என்றேதான் கூறவேண்டும்.
Adiyen say this statement because, Sri Velukkudi Swami did the Exact Same Leelai in the past with Adiyen and Vikram Bhagavata, Please read through these threads for the same conversation/Swami’s leelai.
Swami initiates some topic and tells in Enpani audio and then Swami Kindled Vikram BhagavAtas mind from inside as Antharathma, then Vikram Bhagavata started firing Questions on Swami’s Answer. This type of Swami’s behaviour (Kalyana Gunam) is termed as காரயத்ரித்வம்/Kaarayathritvam as mentioned by our PoorvAchayas in “VaarthaMaalai Grantham” (Meaning of this Kalyanagunam is, “Swami makes one Sankalpam in HIS mind and makes it happen through ‘others Karma'”), so Swami (BhagavAn) safeguards HIMSELF for any happenings in the Samsaram as if Swami is not responsible and letting the BhagavAtas to deal with it as if it due to their karmas.
Then Swami (BhagavAn) immediately made Another Sankalpam in HIS Mind, that KongilPiratti BhagavAta to Answer to Vikram Bhagavata’s counter question. This type of Swami’s (BhagavAn’s) Kalyana Gunam is called சககாரித்வம்/Sakakaaritvam (Means, Swami Helps/supports by providing Answer through Adiyen’s Mind as a Karuvi (Tool ?), so Swami (BhagavAn) safeguards HIMSELF for any happenings in the Samsaram, as if, Swami is not responsible and letting the BhagavAtas to deal with it as if it due to their karmas, and Swami keeps a innocent smiling face.
Reference:
https://www.kinchit.org/dharma-sandeha/thread/can-we-filter-and-say-sampradhayam/
https://www.kinchit.org/dharma-sandeha/thread/does-bhagavans-enemies-reach-moksham-faster/
Then Swami gives Phalapradhatvam and so on, and Vikram Bhagavata says “Bhagavata is Swami’s Sreepadha Dhuli”.
These are Deva Rahasyams (Secret) ?, so please Don’t Share it with all Except sharing it with “ALL BhaddhAthmas” ?whether Theist or Atheist of any Matham/Sampradhayam??
History Repeats (BhagavAn Avataram repeats as Swami’s avataram) ?
So, BhagavAtas conversations in this thread is
“ஸ்ரீவெளுக்குடி. கிருஷ்ணன் ஸ்வாமியின் லீலை என்றேதான் கூறவேண்டும்.”
Swami Alavandhar statement about ShishuPaalan,
ஏசினார் வாழ்ந்து போனார்,
உன் புகழ் பேசினார் எம் பெறுவார்.
(Yesinaar Vaazhndhu ponaar, Un Pugazh Paesinaar Yem Peruvaar)
Meaning:
One who scolded BhagavAN as per BhagavAN wish itself got Nargadhi (Mosksham), then what would be the state of a person who Hails BhagavAn by doing Bhakthi as per HIS wish (Nargadhiyum thaandi yellam kidaikkum, if there is anything beyond Moksham, then they will get that as well).
So, we Bhaktas have to do SnehaPoorva Bhakthi as per Alwars-Acharyas Instructions, since BhagavAN has said it to do via them, and BhagavAN has not said via Alwars-Acharyas to do Dwesham towards HIM to reach HIM, but every JeevAthma has the 100% right to express our Nature, like Vikram Bhagavata is doing with BhagavAn.
அடியார்கள் வாழ அரங்கநகர் வாழ, ஸ்ரீவெளுக்குடி கிருஷ்ணன் ஸ்வாமியே இன்னும் ஒரு நூற்றாண்டு இரும்.
Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu