Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Namaskaram,

Regarding “Achit Ulla bhagavan iruppara? Illa jeevAthma ulla dhan iruppara?“

Refreshing Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s old enpani’s with Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam, Swami has said BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn is “SARVA VYAPAGAN“, means BhagavAn is Present Everywhere inside Achit and Chit (எல்லார்க்கும் நன்மையை விரும்பி, எங்கும் நீக்கமற நிறைந்து இருக்கிறார்).

Means, an EXISTENCE of any object is possible, only when BhagavAn is present in that object. Swami says, as an example, pencil ✏️ or book or table or any Achit can exist only when BhagavAn is present inside them. We already know BhagavAn exist as “Antarathma” inside Chit (JeevAthma’s) from Swami’s enpani. So BhagavAn is Everywhere Inside an Achit and Chit as “VISHNUR” and Outside an Achit and Chit as “VISHWAM” as Swami says in Vishnu Sahasranaamam.

This is called “SARVA VYAPAGATVAM“, Hence BhagavAn is “VIPU (எங்கும் உள்ளான் கண்ணன், தூணிலும் இருப்பார், துரும்பிலும் இருப்பார், நமக்குள்ளும் இருப்பார்” as Swami says.

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On a separate note, the question inside the thread looks reasonably correct version as “Achit Ulla bhagavan iruppara? for which the above said is the Answer referring to Swami’s Sorpozhivu, but looking at the main body subject “Achit ulla antharyAmi irukkArA? is a different perspective, for which the Answer is NO, since the terms “Sarva Vypagan, Antharathma, Antharyami..etc…”…refers to different aspects of BhagavAn and doesn’t mean the same. So the usage of these words in different sentences maynot go along. This is just for devareer’s information for future better understanding.

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Adiyen Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Yes. KongilPiratti Swamy already explained in the below thread link EXTRACTING THE ESSENCE from Swami’s Upanyasams.. So it is not a surprise. Adiyen will copy paste that portion again in this thread.

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https://www.kinchit.org/dharma-sandeha/thread/தப்பு-செய்யதவாள-தப்பு-னு/

By KongilPiratti:

Another example is, we say we do ThiruAradhanai to Perumal with Bhakhi and Acharam and Anushtanam. Is this literally true. It is not True because, by MIND we know BRAHMAM (BhagavAn) is everywhere. So are we not standing by keeping our foot on floor (BRAHMAM). Isn’t this a paapam that we commit daily. We can provide a round about answer that “we shouldnot think that we are standing on top of BRAHMAM, we should only think that the Shaligramam or Small diety at home Perumal”,  but this cannot be digested if we have same thinking as “SukhaAcharyar” who considered BRAHMAM is everywhere and MOREOVER FELT BRAHMAM IS EVERYWHERE”.

Another example is, we go to bathroom for excretion, so “are we not realising that we are putting the excretion on BRAHMAM (BhagavAn) though HE is not in deity form, since BhagavAn us spread out as VIPU everywhere in Bathroom on the floor and we walk on HIM etc.... Isn’t this realisation make us uneasy. So how can we say,  we are a Devotee/Bhaktha?

So Swami says in Sharanagathy Gadyam, we have to pray to BhagavAn to FORGIVE all paapams done daily knowingly and unknowlingly, and we should importantly pray to BhagavAn that “please stop me from making paapams”. Further support BhagavAn needs to do.

So there is no other way around to say that “if one didn’t commit any mistakes”, since the fact is ANYONE in this samsaram is a daily Paapi either by MIND OR SPEECH OR BODILY ACTIONS, just the intensity of paapam varies from one person to another person. That’s it.

So the only thing that we can do is “HOW to reduce the Paapams, since Elimination of Paapams is impossible while we all are in this Samasram“. That’s how BgagavAn has done the PANCHIKARANAM, mixing all Satva, Rajas, Tamas gunas etc…..

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Adiyen Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

If devareer’s deep mind feel to ask sorry to the door due to banging, then devareer can ask sorry. If It is normal knocking on door to call someone or we are intentionally banging the door heavily reflecting our anger towards someone on to the door. The former behaviour is allowed, but latter behaviour is not healthy for us.
That’s why BhagavAn is sitting inside us to see how much TAMED (பக்குவம்) we are by following rules. It may sound crazy to others if we ask sorry to the door,
but dont bother, since BhagavAn is the judge to see how much we react (LOVE) HIM by respecting HIS BODY (all Achit’s plus all Chit’s).

Respecting All Achits means Respecting the Nature/பிரபஞ்சம். Use it responsibly and treat it responsibly.

Respecting All Chits means Respecting other fellow beings either worms or animals or human beings etc….

Then the next question that may pop-up is “does everyone behave good as said”, then the answer would be “let’s follow/practice the good and ethical behaviour first with BhagavAn’s grace/ Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam and then pray for others to follow and encourage the ones who are already following”. There are numerous Swami’s audios about தனி மனித ஒழுக்கம், பண்பு, பக்தி etc……

Adiyen Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan.

Swamy
Bang on, this is what adiyen wanted
“without BhagavAn inside any Achit (like pencil pen table gadgets etc..), the existence of that object is not possible..”

Beautiful this answers everything
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Dasanudasan

Case closed
“ஒரு பொருள் பொருளாக இருக்க வேண்டும் என்றால் அதற்குள் பகவான்”

Sri:

Swamy,
Naana kekala jumbled thoughts vs your clear cut mind

“(Achit is shareeram to Brahmam that’s different)”.

Adiyen honestly not sure, if devareer has jumbled thoughts which is causing some road blocks in understanding BhagavAn’s “SARVA VYAPAGATVAM” or not. “

Veda says:

Anthar bahischa thath sarvam vyApya nArAyaNa sthitha:

So asked if that’s the case, when it accounts to Brahma hathya only if ShareerAthma Bandham is seperated?

Dasanudasan

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

So now, it seems like, devareer acknowledge the answer “SARVA VYAPAGATVAM” that is referenced from Swami’s upanyasams for the initial question is clear. Yes “Narayana Suktham” says about it, devareer mentioned:

“Yatcha kinchit jagat sarvam, drishyate sruyate pi va,
Antar bahischa tat sarvam, vyapya Narayana sthitah.”

[Whatever in this Universe is, either “seen” or “heard of”, or “pervading” all this from INSIDE and OUTSIDE all Chit’s and all Achit’s, stands THE Supreme THE Eternal Divine Being -Narayana]

Adiyen was able to locate Swami’s audio #05 about BhagavAn’s SARVA VYAPAGATVAM.

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Now, it seems devareer have a new CHAIN REACTION question related to BhagavAn’s Sarva Vypagatvam.

So asked if that’s the case, when it accounts to Brahma hathya only if ShareerAthma Bandham is seperated?

So, devareer to kindly please confirm what is devareer’s state of mind / conclusion of the question., Since it is unclear from the question, what devareer is trying to say about Brahma hatya. The reason why Adiyen ask this is because, Shastras say “Brahma Hatya” means “Killing a Brahmin” which is the highest PAAPAM/SIN one can acquire and such people are taken to Special Rehabilitation Places called Narakam/Hell. There is no other way around of escape, unless one cries on BhagavAn”s Lotus Feet, and it will he up to BhagavAn’s discretion “What Next” can get done. This is adiyen’s understanding from Swami’s upanyasams with Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam.

Or devareer had a different understanding about “the meaning of Brahma Hathya other than the one explained above by shastras.

So please clarify swami what is devareer’s view point relating BhagavAn’s Sarva Vyapagatvam Kalyana Gunam and a BhaddhAthma commiting the sin Brahma Hathya, so that Velukkudi Swami can understand the question.

Adiyen Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan.

Srimathe Ramanuja Nmaha,

Namaskaram Vikram Swami,

Regarding devareer’s intial question “Achit Ulla bhagavan iruppara? Illa jeevAthma ulla dhan iruppara?“

Yes, Achitthukulla Brahmam Irukkiraar from Swami’s Enpani #05 is the answer for the above initial question, Which is what adiyen tried to share it as  “Refreshing Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s old enpani’s with Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam, Swami has said BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn is “SARVA VYAPAGAN“, means BhagavAn is Present Everywhere inside Achit and Chit (எல்லார்க்கும் நன்மையை விரும்பி, எங்கும் நீக்கமற நிறைந்து இருக்கிறார்)…………

However it looks like devareer’s real question in mind is “Why bharathar jumped over ants? He is anyway not killing the soul?”, looking at the above repeated posts, which doesn’t reflect in the initial question posted by devareer. How one will be able to interpret devareer’s mind unless devareer doesn’t translate the question in mind exactly in wordings. So devareer stating as “The original question still remains the same” is not correct Swami, since it is not properly laid down clearly.

If devareer would have asked the question is mind clearly as “Why bharathar jumped over ants? He is anyway not killing the soul?”,  then there is detailed different answer. For that, the “Vishista vesham nokku and Nishkrishta vesham nokku” needs to be understood from Swami’s upanyasams before giving the answer. Otherwise devareer is going to circumambulate on this topic for a while.

Adiyen’s intention is not trying to answer by pretending to be a scholar here, however adiyen is only trying to SHARE from Swami’s upanyasams, if adiyen have come across any answers to help others and as Kainkaryam to Velukkudi Swami.

Adiyen Srinivasa (DhaddayaAcharyar) Dasan

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami has graced details in enpani #1700 உடலுக்குள்ளும் ஆத்மா உள்ளார்; நாற்க்காலிக்குள்?

Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan