Bhaya Krith Bhaya nAshana:

Updated on June 3, 2022 in Good qualities for human
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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

Bhaya Krith = Nam KarmathAley Ref :EnPaNi 2486

Earlier what adiyen heard was:
Bhaya Kruth = Is for bad people

Kettavargalukku Bhayam undu pannuvar
Nallavargalukku bhayam pokkuvar

Because sometime earlier adiyen asked same question in this forum.

Why Perumal Bhaya Krith? According to Vishnu Sahasranamam.

Adiyen was told it was for different people. Now I heard it is for same people?

Please clarify.

Nam KarmathAley Bhayam varuvadhu “bhayam undu pannuvadhu” eppadi Agum?

Does Perumal give Karma Phalan as “Bhayam”?

Also why a Bhaktha or a sharanAgathA gets bhayam? What is Perumal doing, asking us to do yoga & he is doing yOga NidrA is it?

Dasanudasan

 
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4 on May 31, 2022

Earlier
“nyAnam bhakthi vairAgyam” was prescribed

Nowadays “DhyAnam & Yogam” is being prescribed

Adiyen see a lot of change in prescription from earlier days of upanyasams.

Mundhi ellam avlo yogatha pathi peche kAnOm. Ippo neraya varudhu.

Who will teach yOgam?
Jaggi Vasudev, Pandit Sri Ravi Shankar , Baba Ram Dev, Nithyananda?

Adhayum prescribe pannidungo.

Or let kinchit release book on yOgam we will follow.

In one Kinchit calendar cd one mama was teaching yOgam. Highly appreciated but what’s the pramANam in Sri vaishnava Guru Paramparai?

Adiyen heard it’s over after Sriman Natha Munigal. In fact that Swamy taught to someone it seems and latter Swamy did not spread it seems.

Whatever it is , it is not there. Why are we always prescribing yOgam then when Azhwars didn’t insist.

I will get answer:
“Need not do yOgam as part of Moksha sAdhanam”

Then why do any sAdhana for that matter? Time pass?

Summa asanam and dhyAnam what’s the use? BP reduce pannavA?

Why Azhwars did not prescribe yogam?

My father used to say “PerumALa dhyAnam Pannu”.

Not sure if this dhyAnam is yogic or non yogic?

Is this dhyAnam part of that 8 angam?

Also when my Amma had breathing issues known via oximeter, Adiyen asked her to do pranAyAmam, the meter was giving better results immediately.

So thought why pranAyAmam restricted only to males in SandhyAvandhanam or other rituals?

Of course, this Sri Vaishnavam is male centric.

If women can cook for perumal which is directly going inside perumal at home why women not allowed in madapalli of temples except for theetu kaalam?

For males we have long mantra in tarpanam. For females we just say shorter single line mantra “pithAmahi tarpayAmi” thrice even after death.

(This is what adiyen feel)

Please refer script if you don’t believe me.

Also Vasu Pathni swarupa: not matching when mother is alive. It is wrong to say grandmother as father’s wife.

Manasu oppala.

I.e. Father’s mother cannot be assumed as father’s wife.

I think I should change my Sankalpam. I stopped saying “Pathni swaroopa:” and started directly addressing as “PathAmahi” only.

My paatti cannot be father’s wife that’s ridiculous.

Adiyen will ask some learned about tarpanam or to my Acharya himself today. Let’s see.

Dasanudasan

Namaskaaram swami,

 

I am not able to understand everything from devareer’s posts. But definitely Sri Vaishanavam is not ‘male-centric’. I am surprised that views like these are coming from devareer (who is also a Sri Vaishanava).

 

Sri Vaishanavam is focussed on surrendering to Perumal and Moksham. It is Perumal-centric. Even if devareer said that it is Azhwar-centric/Acharya-centric, it would have been fine.

 

adiyen dasan.

Dear Sharavanan swamy,

as we have seen many many times in the past, Vikram swamy will ask questions for which he already knows the answer and he is simply testing others or he just want to emphasise some basic point and so puts forward as a short question; after someone takes the time to write a long answer he will say “I knew; I just wanted to highlight this answer and that is why I asked”.

For this purpose he may sometimes even ask  questions in a kutharka manner!

So, don’t mistake or underestimate him. When you feel his questions seems off track, simply ignore and move on. That is what I am trying to do now-a-days.

adiyen.

Namaskaaram swami,

Thanks for devareer’s reply, swami.

Vikram swami is a senior member in this forum. So I am no one compared to the knowledge he would have gained.

Vikram swami, if devareer is reading this, I hope I posted the answer devareer might know already.

adiyen dasan.

on June 2, 2022

Apologies to all Swamies for misunderstandings

Question not about me

All of you are very much learned.
Adiyen trying to grab as much as possible.

Adiyen a verithanamana sishyan of Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy that’s my only credit

Dasanudasan

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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

Today adiyen discussed about yOgam with Sri Vaishnavites, in Andavan birthday celebrations, one mama shared:

“Swamy NAtha Muni’s yOga Rahasyam book is available by his VamsA Vali one Mr. KrishnamAchAri Swamy who wrote the book and goes to trance state etc”

Another mama said
“Yoga is not prescribed we follow only Nithya KarmAnushtAnams, Gayathri japam and other rituals dedicatedly. ”

Swamy also said
“Siva vAkiyar who wrote Natta Kallai deivam endru naalu Pushpam saatriye, is actually Sri Thirumazhisai Azhwar”

Swamy added:
“Thirumazhisai Azhwar & NammAzhwAr were Yogis”

“Thirumazhisai piraan is still alive” it seems.

Many more were discussed but adiyen stop here considering relevance

Adiyen leave discretion to readers.

Dasanudasan

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Shravanan of Swami’s Upanyasams Swamy,

There is a difference between theory & practice.
Adiyen shared what is being followed.

Krishna asked other’s wives to go back to their husbands – Krishna Premi Swamy

Krishna respects sAmAnya Dharma.

Meera Bai, MAtru Sri Tari Kpnda VengamAmbA were exceptions.

Attraction to Perumal is natural & Athma based. No gender bias.

Did adiyen say “Moksham is for males only”?
Please understand the statements.

Women are supposed to be in service to their husbands. This is indeed Sri Vaishnavam.

Don’t you see Sri Mahalakshmi massaging Sri Vishnu’s Thiruvadi?

I did not say male centric is wrong or right. It’s just a perspective.

All Azhwars took NAyikA bhAvam
While
Andaal was Swayam NAyikA

So easily becomes slave to Perumal

Now tell me what does slavery got to do with gender?

That’s because self submission is easier for women than men.

Dasanudasan

Namaskaaram Swami,

Devareer’s views are correct. This was the explanation adiyen was looking for. But of course adiyen posted the earlier reply just in case someone misunderstands by reading devareer’s post.

adiyen dasan.

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Adiyen brought this Yoga topic because yoga is commercialized nowadays

Many of our SriVaishnavites going to other branches.

If asked says ” Yoga Meditation” blah blah

Try to find the real truth if not available then leave it.

Avar thirunAmam “NAtha Muni”
Paatu padinAlEy Brahmam MayanguvAr endru artham

Just by singing you can attain God

If in doubt
Check “ThiyAga Brahmam”

Don’t fall into traps.

Dasanudasan

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