Clarification about pavam and punyam personification

Updated on September 11, 2017 in General
4 on September 8, 2017

Uyarthiru Acharyar u ve velukudi krishnan swamigaluku kodi namaskarangal,
Adiyen uyarthiru Acharyar avargalin pala upanyasangalai naal dhorum
ketpadhundu,
It would really help me if ï could get clarified regarding the following, – if à person is angry at you just think that our pavam has taken the personification of that opposite person and making you under distress and try to let go of any feeling or reaction that arises from the opposite person’s ill behavior towards you
,also in other instance – pavam and punyam just do the job of deciding at your birth , your status ,your gnana and let goes off you and they don’t follow after you are born but your actions in this birth follows you, what is the différence between the pavam and punyas that decides your birth and other pavam mentioned in the first instance ? Adiyenin ariyamai iruzhai nikkumaru thaazhmaiyodu vendikozhgiren 🙂

 
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Hare Krishna! Aneha koti namaskaram Swami!

 

Swami: Both are not different but the same. Jiva experiences and reacts per his past karma. Jiva carries his senses (that include mind/consciousness) from prior life.

 

Bhagavad Gita 15.8: Whatever body the ruler (Jîvåtman) acquires and from whatever body it departs, it proceeds, taking with it these sense-faculties as the wind carrying fragrance from
their places [in flowers].

Bhagavad Gita 15.9: Presiding over the ear, the eye, the sense of touch, the tongue, the nose, and the mind, it experiences these objects of the senses.

 

Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu!

on September 8, 2017

Aneka koti namaskarams

Yes adiyen. Past karmAs are sanchitham. Current birth (janma) Karmas are prArabdhams.

In the first instance, Swami told

“If somebody is angry on us then our sins (pavams) are deducted”

“If we become joyful our virtues (punyams) are deducted”

Reacting will develop or multiply the Karma.

Sanchitham decides our birth. We would have gone to hell before or probably heaven as per one of EnPaNi and come back as human (not necessarily as human) based on previous birth’s karmas.

We will wait for answer from Swami in EnPaNi for further learnings.

Dasanudasan

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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Well said Baktha in Crisp and Elimai’yaaga from:

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“Yes adiyen. Past karmAs are sanchitham……………………………………………………We will wait for answer from Swami in EnPaNi for further learnings. Dasanudasan”

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Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Yellarudaya Manadhayum Aandananaey,
Sarvam SriKrishna Kudumbham.

on September 11, 2017

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