Diversity in Atma too? (men/women)

Updated on October 5, 2022 in General
11 on October 2, 2022

Dear Swamy/Periyava,

Adiyen ramanujadasan

Swamy always quote that Atmas are women and only men is our ParamAtma Baghwan!. Sure only brave is our Baghwan, but how the difference of men/women characters applies to an Atma. What way it applies. When atma are Gnana shorupam how the character or Gender differs comes ?.

Adiyen ramanuja dasan

 
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All of us are souls.

In Vaikuntha, we have difference in services. Some of us in the role of a man, some in the role of woman, some as a grass, some as a parrot, some as a garland, some as a stream, some as a fan or umbrella or footwear, so on. 

There is unlimited diversity / variety in the kainkaryams available there.

What determines who is assigned what kainkaryam? Is the kainkaryam permanant or we can change our kainkaryam? questions like this, I don’t know the answer. I’ll find out when I go there.

adiyen.

on October 2, 2022

Dear Swamy, Baghwan krubai thangluku epovme irukum. Whatever you mentioned is activities. But in Atma how the difference of women/men comes. ?. Why that needs to be stressed for what reason ?. Atma is slave to Paramatma I can understand, but the gender tagging I can’t.

“But in Atma how the difference of women/men comes.?”

from what I understand, gender is also different functions/activities only. If I am serving as a grass I am given the form of a grass; if I am serving as a man I am given the form of a man. so on.

adiyen.

on October 2, 2022

As per Our swamy views all of us are female atmas only , we may get resemblance of any role and act.

on October 4, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

@Govinda Narayanan Swamy

Female is submissive by nature. So Jeeva Thomas are considered female to ParamAthmA.

In actual Sanskrit AthmA is gender neutral.

Dasanudasan

on October 4, 2022

Please read “Jeeva Thomas” as “JeevAthmA”
Auto Spell correct issue.

Dasanudasan

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0 on October 3, 2022

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Beautiful conversations. Adiyen also noticed Swami’s Enpani #2612 related to this topic.

Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayacharyAr) Dasan.

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2 on October 3, 2022

Many thanks to all Swami’s and our guru Velukudi swamy explanation: summary one of the beautiful characteristics of an women is matched with atma when he serves to paramatma. Hence it’s called like that.

Adiyen ramanujadasan

on October 4, 2022

Many thanks to all Swami’s and our guru Velukudi swamy explanation: summary one of the beautiful characteristics of an women is matched with atma when he serves to paramatma. Hence it’s called like that.

Adiyen ramanujadasan

From Govindan Narayanan

Dhanyosmi did not notice this answer. Adiyen saw this on top of thread so shared my answer. Hope adiyen’s frequency matched with Velukkudi Swamy in this answer 😁

Dasanudasan

on October 5, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

According to Sanskrit grammar Athma Seems to be masculine. Brahmam is neutral gender. Apologies for error.

Dasanudasan

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0 on October 4, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

@Kambandasan Swamy
“What determines who is assigned what kainkaryam? Is the kainkaryam permanant or we can change our kainkaryam? “- Our Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy has already answered

“Such Kainkaryams are volunteered, we can assume any form, multiple forms or even be formless”.

This means question of assignment doesn’t come into picture Kainkaryams are not forced.

We are Bhaghavan LabhArthi there. We can become tualasi of we want in Sri Vaikuntam.

Dasanudasan

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