Sri ranga naachiyar samedha ranganathan thiruvadigale saranam! Srimath ramanujaya namaha! Swami! Namaskaram! I have a doubt on mahalakshmi in vishitadvita sampradayam.was she a paramathma or a jeevathma?Can she grant moksham?Please clarify my doubt
Sri ranga naachiyar samedha ranganathan thiruvadigale saranam! Srimath ramanujaya namaha! Swami! Namaskaram! I have a doubt on mahalakshmi in vishitadvita sampradayam.was she a paramathma or a jeevathma?Can she grant moksham?Please clarify my doubt
Adiyen is connecting Swami’ previous question on “Thiruman”. This question stems based on the 18 primary differences between the sects. Referring to Sri U.Ve A. Govindacarya (1910) Swami’s writing in The Ashtadasa-Bhedas, or the Eighteen Points of Doctrinal Differences between the Thenkalais (Southerners) and the Vadakalais (Northerners) of the Visistadvaita Vaisnava School, South India. Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society, 42, pp. 1103-1113. All copyrights due to the journal publisher. Swami writes as
4. Nature of Sri (or Laksmi).
N. Say that Sri has essential pervasion (Svarupa-Vyapti) also, as Narayana; i.e. pervasion by essence.
S. Say that Sri has attributive pervasion (Guna-Vyapti) and corporeal pervasion (Vigraha-Vyapti), but not the essential pervasion (Svarupa-Vyapti). The Motherhood differs from Fatherhood and differs again from Sonhood. Son is the Soul, who has attributive pervasion only. Mother is Sri (or the passive female principle of the cosmos), who has attributive plus corporeal pervasions. Father is Narayana (or the active male principle of the cosmos), who has essential plus attributive plus corporeal pervasions. This pervasive character is what differentiates the three Principles from each other, viz. Soul, Sri, and Narayana.
5. Sri’s Powers.
N. Say that Sri has the power to grant Moksa—a power which she shares equally with Narayana.
S. Say that Narayana alone possesses this power; and that Sri performs the function of the Paraclete, i.e. Mediatrix in this magnum opus.
Said that we as varavaramuni sambhandhis and given our fallen condition we (at least for sure adiyen) neither are eligible nor directly approach Emperumaan or Emperumaati rather depend on our Emperumanaar through ones asmath Acharyar for our liberation.
Please forgive me for any wrong saying Swami.
Azhwaar, Acharyar, Jeer Thiruvadigale Saranam. With the Thiruvadi Balam of Sri Velukkudi Swamigal,
Adiyen!
Swami,i am following thenkalai sampradayam.in our thennacharya sampradayam,mahalakshmi cannot grant moksham.but in sri suktam,a word “moksha lakshmi”is Coming.then it shows that mahalakshmi can grant moksham.please explain and please forgive me if adiyen had did any mistake
Alwar,emperumanar,jeeyar thiruvadigale saranam!Swami,nammalvar had said “அகலகில்லேன் இறையுமென்று அலர்மேல் மங்கை உறை மார்பா’From this,we can understand that sri cannot be separated from perumal’s heart.That’s why he got his name as srinivasan.this shows sri is within perumal that is,she is in perumal’s heart.so,then she too should be paramathma.No alwars had said that sri is a jeevathma.some say that there is no verse from Vedas which say mahalakshmi as a jeevathma and no acharyas had said mahalakshmi as jeevathma.please forgive adiyen if I had did any mistake.?Manavala mamunigal thiruvadigale saranam ?Adiyen ramanuja dasan?
அடியேன் ஏதாவது செய்திருந்தால்,அடியேனை க்ஷமிக்க ப்ராத்திக்கின்றேன்.please explain me swami?Adiyen dasunu dasan ?
Swami,moreover ,swami desikan in his sri stuti – verse 9 said that ,” த்வாமேவாஹு: கதிசிதபரே த்வத்ப்ரியம் லோகநாதம் கிம் தைரந்த: கலஹ மலிநை: கிஞ்சிதுத்தீர்ய மக்நை:| த்வத்ஸம்ப்ரீத்யை விஹரதி ஹரௌ ஸம்முகீநாம ச்ருதீநாம் பாவாருடௌ பகவதி யுவாம் தம்பதீ தைவதம்||” Swami,in this verse swami desikan had said parabrahmam constitute both perumal and mahalakshmi.so please explain was mahalakshmi belongs to ishwara goshti or jeeva goshti.i got confused a lot.? Manavala mamunigal thiruvadigale saranam ? Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan?
The best way for you to know the fundamentals would be to attend Mumukshipadi kalakshepam. All your doubts would be cleared.
ஸ்வாமியின் கருணையே கருணை!!! ஸ்ரீ வேளுக்குடி கிருஷ்ணன் ஸ்வாமிகள் திருவடிகளே சரணம்!
Dhanyosmi Swamy
As per Vadakalai and my understanding Sri Mahalakshmi is ParamAthmA mithunam.
As per thenkalai She is special jeevAthmA
That’s all. No more conflicts of interest am bored of it.
Mahalakshmi is not jivatma like any of us
She is equal to Sriman Narayana and can grant Moksha etc
There are different opinions but the above one is holistic understanding
Radhakrishna