Please hear/ study 9.13, and see 7.28 also in conjunction with 9.13.

In 7.16 to 10, He explains the 4 different kinds of devotees who come to Him for specific purpose. All of them are great; but among them one kind is the best.

In 12 chapter He explains what are the different grades of devotees who please Him and what qualities in His devotees pleases Him more and more.

The example often given is, all children are equal to the mother. She provides the needs of each child as per their desire. To the child who wants nothing but her and depends totally on her, she gives herself completely.

Initially we all are robbers (who are trying to claim His properties as ours). Then we begin to go to Him with some desires and He promptly fulfils our desires, sometimes even if the desire it not good for us. When we realise our mistakes and gradually by acharyan anugraham develop deeper love for Him and want nothing but Him, we make progress to the mahatma stage.

adiyen dasan.

Him with some desires and He promptly fulfils our desires, sometimes even if the desire it not good for usFrom கம்பன்தாசன்

Kamban Dasan Swami,

Sorry to jump into this discussion!

Bhagawan naam kettadhai koduppavara alladhu namakku edhu ugandhadho adhai koduppavara ?

Both Swamy
First kettafha koduthu attract pannuvar (lollipop)

Then will do only Hitham (what’s necessary to us)

Dasanudasan

To a obedient child, the parents give only what is good for the child. To a child who throws tantrums, the parents give whatever he asks for, with the hope he will realise his mistake sooner or later.

In Perumal’s case, if we are obedient He gives only things that are good for us to get back to Vaikuntham soon. If we keep throwing tantrums and keep asking for things that are not good for us, He grants our wish but also makes arrangements in our life for us to realise the futility of our desire. This experience teaches to be obedient in future instances also. Thus, granting our tantrum-desires makes it easy for us to get back to Vaikuntham (because now we will not throw tantrums… as long as we remember the lesson learnt).

That is why acharyas always advise us “do not pray for anything to Perumal (except for kainkaryam and deeper devotion). He knows what to give when to give how to give”. If we become desperate and pray for something, and He does relent and grant our wish, we may have to face the consequence of that desire before we learn our lesson.

But nevertheless, if we are really keen to get something, it is better to ask our Perumal than any devantharam. Because, in case of Perumal the subsequent situations help us get back to Vikuntham. In case of devantharams, it could get us more bound to this world!

adiyen dasan.

Swamy, in adiyen’s experience, there are instances where my desire-prayers have been fulfilled, but a few years I realise the mistake of asking that; also, there are instances where my desire-prayers have not been fulfilled and in a few years I realised what a BIG blessing it is to have not received what I had desired.

So, I am not able to fully see your perspective. kshamikkavum.

adiyen dasan.

Swamy when i meant deservance it means our efforts or karma in past present life..
Yes even without sufficient material effort if one gets kataksham or grace of thaayaar it can happen..but still to get the grace we need to do.atleast the basic principles as expected from our varna and ashrama.

Adiyen

The situation is due to past piety but they misuse the facilities for wrong purpose