Sri:
If God is good who is bad considering there is nothing else other than God?
Adiyen would like to extend this question. From where does bad originates. Is it due to Karma alone? What is the need for self realization and realizing Athma is parathanthran to bhagavan? Why should bad exist in first place?
Krishna Premi Anna Swami told the pillar gets dissolved in Narasimhan.
I infer bad get dissolved in good.
If God is pure white light can he be seen? For us to see should Vishnu lower his brightness ? Only refracted light can be seen.
We see sun in afternoon. Then how to see crores if sunlight Perumal?
Do we require divine sight to see him?
What’s the difference between normal Parthasarathi Krishna and Vishwaroopam Krishna?
Why Arjun required divine eyes?
What does aprakrutha thirumeni means?
Which thirumeni did Sukha bruhmam hugged?
Which thirumeni did lord Hanuman hugged?
What do we experience if we hug archai thirumeni?
Hare Krishna! Namaskaram!
Here is the answer from Gaudiya vaishnava line of Gurus:
Jiva has minute independence (while the lord has unlimited independence) for the Jiva (Jivatma) and the lord (Paramatma) are ‘qualitatively’ same. With the minute independence, Jiva tries to imitate the lord and wants to be the ‘controller’. So the lord creates the world and makes the Jiva think that he is the controller of the world (a.k.a ‘Maya). However, Jiva is under the hard clutches of laws of nature (prakruti). Through all life experience, Jiva realizes that he is servant of the lord and finally surrenders unto him and becomes liberated from Maya (a.k.a ‘Moksha’).
A humble request to not dwell deep into the philosophies, since that becomes a hindrance for Bakti maargam. The more the philosophy, the heart becomes ‘hard’, the more the ‘Bakti’, heart becomes ‘soft’.
Related blog:
http://www.iskcondesiretree.com/profiles/blogs/beyond-philosophy
Dhanyosmi Swami,
For adiyen, love is not coming naturally so have to create or imitate or mimic love towards Perumal. May be the prakruthi doing its tricks as per devareer’s post. .
If adiyen had real love adiyen should have been aartha prapannan and be in Srivaikuntam as of date.
Wish to teach my son if he asks such questions. He is already reciting shlokas.
Dasanudasan
Hare Krishna! Namaskaram Swamy!
Absolutely true Swami. Love is in budding state and the mind always tries to understand the lord through ‘knowledge’ but that is not possible. In Bhagavad Gita upanyasam, Swami explains, ‘Gnanam’ has to finally take the shape of ‘Bakti’ (a.k.a love). Only through Bakti(/love), we can understand the lord fully.
? Dhanyosmi Swami,
Amam udayavarum Sri Bhasya Mangala shlokathula “Semushi bhakthi Rupa” nu solli irukkar. Bhakthirupapanna gyanam.
Acharyan anugrahikkanum. Till that time Poorva urangA villi daasar dhan.
Adiyen
Swami,
Adiyen recollect Kali Purushan statement to Parikshit in Srimad Bhagavatham ” The bhagavan who created you created me also so allow me to do my job”
Dasanudasan
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Dear sir
Interesting discussion here.I am sharing my thoughts based on what I have heard.
Bad does not originate ..bad is a state of existence separately or non cooperative to the will of the Supreme Lord. Good is state of existence in cooperation with Lord s will.every person is given a choice to.choose one of these two possible states.
Reason for this definition is because Lord is the best friend of all..so he wants best and good for all.for that to happen he has given a duty or role for each of us to do which will help all in overall picture..so when we follow him it is good. For example so called bad of killing was advised for higher good by Lord Krishna to Arjuna.
Thanks
Regards
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy has told in EnPaNi, bhagavan has given Jeeva swathanthriyam meaning individual discretion to make day to day decisions.
Perumal is like boss who owns the company. The boss dues not take part in day to day activities of employees. Yet he is accountable for entire business.
This compelled me to compare perumAl still holds responsibility of our fruits (results) of actions/deeds (Karma). So he says suurender & don’t worry Arjuna I will releive you from all sins.
The baby elephant plays in water, mother elephant pulls the baby out when it struggles.
We are the baby elephant & we came from the mother Sriman Narayana.
Dasanudasan
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Hare Krishna! Namaskaram Swami! Aneha koti namaskaram to the lotus feet of Sri Velukkudi Swami!
Swami says in a upanyasam (believe ‘Dharmathi uruvam – Ramanum Krishnanum’ part of Sanadhana Dharma) that a tree has 2 causes (to grow). 1 is immediate (seed) and another is remote (earth/land). For our life, the immediate cause is Jiva’s desire (/swathanthriyam) and remote cause is the lord. So, we should always try to work on the cause (Jiva’s desire, on which we have control) while the lord takes care of the rest. This is not to be mistaken for not surrendering to the lord but to take ‘responsibility’ of our life. Once we take the responsibility, lord then takes care of the rest.
Another version from a ISKCON devotee. We see darkness, because we turned away from the sun (lord), so immediate cause (for darkness) is us. When we turn towards sun (there is light). But sun is the ultimate cause for light or darkness.
Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanam!
Hare Krishna! By the way, came to know about Urangaa villi dasar (from one of swami’s upanyasam). Nama avlo mosam illa swami, apadi iruntha, namakku intha forum la enna vela ? 🙂
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Let’s not under estimate Indriyams . Even AzhwArs were afraid of it. NAradhar , Vishwamithra all victims of bhagavan’s Maya.
You will know, the markandeyan – Narayanan interaction. The pralayam right in front of markandeyan’s eyes. That included markandeyan going inside his stomach.
NAradhar became naradhi in Srimad Bhagavatham.
“Un maayai ennai enna seiyum?” = MOST POWERFUL QUESTION IN THE WORLD
Dasanudasan