Kalyana GuNam Veli Patta Dhan PerumALa SevippELA?

Updated on September 3, 2023 in Avatars
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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thriruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri Krishna Premi Swamy Thriruvadigaley Sharanam

Sri:

Appo KalyANa GuNam Veli Patta dhAn PerumALa sevippomnA,

Namakkum kAmyArthikkum enna vidhyAsam?

Krishnan kitta PurNa KalyANa GuNam irukku.

Irukkattum.

VarAhar kuda dhAn charama shlOkam aruLi cheidhirukkAr?

Andha andha avatAram endha nOkkathirkkAga yerppattadhO, Andha Andha KaLyANa guNangal VeLippattadhu.

Ramar AvadhArathula, ramar

“AthmANAm mAnusham Manye RAmam dasarathAthmajam” ngrAr

Avar chumma apdi solli avatAra kAryatha niraivetruvadharkkAga soldrAr because Ravanan vAngina varam apdi.

AdhEy Ramar, NakhathAla close panniduven nu meratrar, Narasimha avatAra nyAbagam.

Krishna avatArathula “Naan Kadavul” ney sAdhikarAr appo dhAn Arjunanukku dhariyam varum and avara endha oru nirbandhanum kattupaduthavillai.

Enakku therinju ayudhatha payan padutha maaten endra orey oru nirbandham.

Apdi irundhum avar chakrayudhatha payan paduthi suryanai maraichadha oru sandharbam.

Bhishmar kuda vandi chakram adhu ondru.

“Nirankucha Swathanthran” adhayum prove pannittaar. Krishna cannot be questioned!

Kalki la kudhirai la Vara porAr. Real Horse Power.

Parasu ramara sevicha enna thappu?

PerumAlin avatArathil Bedham pArpadhu seriyA?

Dasanudasan

 
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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Parashuram is not Perumal’s Poorna Avatram. He is Avesha Avataram,

Poorna Avatram of BhagavAn are Sri Rama, SriKrishna, Sri Varaha, Sri NaraSimha etc..means Direct Avataram of BhagavAn “PARAMATHMA” without compromising any of HIS COUNTLESS Kalyana Gunas.

Avesha Avataram of BhagavAn is like imparting a JeevAthma with a small PORTION of Bhagavan’s ONE of the Countless Kalaya Gunas. Parashuram is one such case.

That’s why when Parasuram being JeevAthma had all three gunas rajo, tamo and satva. Due his avesham, he started killing every king. When he came across SriRama broke Shiva danus, he parasurama (jeevathma) came to challenge and kill SriRama. That’s when SriRama dampened parasuramar ahankaar.

If one need Moksha and Service to Supreme Almighty GOD and to escape from this Material birth-death-rebirth karmic cycle, they have to avoid all the rajo/ramp Guna puranic characters like parasurama/other devathas and focus on the Suddha Satva Guna BhagavAn SriRama.

If parasurama is BhagavAn himself as avatar, then it is common sense to understand that “will BhagavAn SriRama argue with BhagavAn himself”, definitely not.

People ignorantly added parasurama as avatar of BhagavAn. That’s Kali Yuga mahimai.

There are detailed discussion in the past (May 2020) in this forum and Velukkudi Swami has answered in Enpani #1743 regarding this topic, and you were one among them who acknowledge at end of the thread.

பரசுராம அவதாரத்தின் பிரயோஜனம்?

Adiyen ElayaAlwar Srinivasa DhoddayacharyAr Dasan.

on September 3, 2023

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thriruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri Krishna Premi Swamy Thriruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

Swamy,
Adiyen’s perception, an avathAram is taken for a purpose.

Technically speaking,
Sri Sita Ram Dampathi worshipped Sri RanganAthar Periya PerumAL. Yes?

Does it mean Sri Ram is lesser than RanganAthar?

Please don’t keep argument between Parashuram garva bhangam vs Sri Ram. Adiyen think there is a flaw in what we understand.

If your see Periyava (elders) explanation:
SriRam, Sri Lakshman, Sri Bharatha, Sri Shatrughna all were almighty’s different forms.

Therefore devareer’s this point of view becomes null and void

“If parasurama is BhagavAn himself as avatar, then it is common sense to understand that “will BhagavAn SriRama argue with BhagavAn himself”, definitely not.”

Perumal creates a copy of himself whenever required.

Example: Brahma Mohana Leelai, Srimath BhAgavatham.

Whether it is two Perumal or one perumal to our eyes

He is “EkamEva Adwitheeyam”

” People ignorantly added parasurama as avatar of BhagavAn. That’s Kali Yuga mahimai.”

Devareer have to be little cautious in these kind of genralizing statements. Sri Ramanujar acknowledged DasavathAra Sannidhi in SriRangam temple.

Azhwar also sang according to Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy himself:

“Munnuvi RAmanAi, ThAnumAi, Pinnuvi FAmanAi DAmodaranAi Kalkiyum AnAn”

Munnuvi Raman = ParashuRAman
ThAnumAi = Sri Raman
Punnuvi Raman = Bala RAman

Therefore Parashuram is an acknowledged avatAr by our periyavAs.

Question is not only about parahsuram,

Question is:

Why are we differentiating Perumal based on GuNAs?

I think we should not discriminate perumal based on GuNAs as he is one and he manifests his powers whenever required based on the need.

Parashuram Panninadhu thappu endrAl, Krishnan MahabhArathathula athanai peraiyum kondradhu sariyA?

SahAdevan enna soldrAr:
Krishna don’t play with me, I know what you are up to, why are you asking me as if I have some stake in your play (Leela)?

Velukkudi let swamy say Avesha avathAram , my point was, he was Avesham because that was the requirement as on that point in time.

The whole VishistAdvaitam revolves around TRUTH at that point in time.

Periya Perumal doesn’t mean others are chinna perumal.

I have not read the thread Devareer is pointing out , adiyen will read after this response and see if my thought process is in alignment with what adiyen told earlier. I hope it does.

Mukkur Lakshmi Narasimha AchAryAr Swamy says:

Narasimhan is Periya Periya PerumAL

He is bigger than RanganAthar

This kind of comparison is made based on Keerthi and not moorthy.

How much Keerthi was exhibited by those avatArs is the question

Definitely each avatar had its purpose.

Narasimhan stayed shorter
SriRam stayed longer
SriKrishna stayed somewhere in between

How we view an avatar is based on what Perumal is exhitibing.

My point is:
What’s wrong in asking “Aishwaryam, Bhalam from Hayagreevan”

I.e. Selvam & Veeram from a God of Knowledge?

Won’t Hayagreeva give all three?

Will correct knowledge not being in Wealth & Prosperity?

Why are we creating Bedham in Almighty and worshipping God accordingly when he is ONE?

Dasanudasan

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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Adiyen read that thread and confirm adiyen’s thought process is in alignment and the context of this thread & is little different.

The whole purpose of an avatar is “DHARMA STHAPANAM”

Sriman Narayana need not put much effort to establish Dharma in Krutha Yugaam.

Only admist chaos God’s presence is most admired.

Dasanudasan

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