Dear Swamy / Periyava,
Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,
Adiyen like to know about “Lord Krishna and Rama or Balrama avatar time views and reaction” when their citizens worshipping other DEITIES. what was LORDS view or action or alerting on that time.
Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Lord SriRam did not fully expose himself. Though MahAveera Vaibhavam and all sang, not sure how many realized SriRam himself was God.
This is evident from words of Rishi Vishwamitrar
“Aham Vedmi MahAthmAnam RAmam Sathya ParAkramam”
Hey Dasarathan, you don’t know about him but myself know. Even Rishi Vasishta would agree with me in this matter.
Secondly, all citizens went behind SriRam towards forest because SriRam was attractive because of KalyANa GuNas
“PumpsAm Dhrishti Chitha ApahAriNam”
Why Ravana & demons were not attracted adiyen don’t know
Whereas lord Krishna declared himself as supreme still not many realized.
Even in Krishna’s childhood Brahmins were doing fire 🔥 rituals inspite of Krishna’s presence.
So, Vibhava AvatAram allowed other deity worship for lower benefit – Did not force anyone.
Point to be noted, Supreme is allowing Jeeva SwAthanthriyam
of JeevAthmA to take precedence .
The words of Krishna were always mystical.
One thing, Krishna remained TRUE to his devotees.
Also his devotees were constantly overpowering Krishna.
It was a tug of war were Krishna was always a loser.
Krishna remained happy to be loser for his devotees.
“Aham Bhaktha ParAdheeena:”
There might be better responses from others, let’s wait for it
Dasanudasan
Srimate Ramaanujaye Namaha,
Swami, based on a recent Bhagavatam audio last week, happened to read this section of Bhagavatam..https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/10/34/
So we can understand that Lord Shri Krishna either encouraged them or remained neutral, either of this was His stand perhaps based on the description. it does not appear that he condemned or was critical.
Adiyen
Srimate Raamanujaye Namaha,
Swami in yesterdays Srimad Bhagavatam audio (11th january 2023) chapter 10.40 https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/10/40/ on Akkrura’s prayers were covered.
In this chapter there are set of verses from 7 to 10 which are relevant to this discussion.
Adiyen
Vikram Swamy, Enpanifan swamy suggested an article, adiyen would like to refer that for sure. But whole article is little lengthy. hence, once i read and understand, adiyen will share my views here. Konjam avaghasam kodukavum.
Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan.
thanks a lot Enpanifan swami for the article : adiyen referred the 7 to 10. Vikram swamy Adiyen understanding is : a baktha or a human “who realise the understanding of Supreme -> “One who is reason for everyone and one who doesn’t have a reason for himself is supreme lord Narayana” !
Any who doesn’t understand this supreme reasoning process, he/she will get divert or attract towards other demigods/Deities which is not correct/indirect process/time taking process.
above is Adiyen neechan understanding, Kshamikavum.
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Dhanyosmi for sharing your understanding Swamy.
The demi-god status is given by lord himself. The antharyAmi is Sriman Narayanan.
When lord Shiva gave “Chiranjeevi” status to Markandeya, former consulted with AntharyAmi Sriman Narayana. This is my understanding from Sri RanganAtha PAdukA.
“Sarva Deva NamaskAra: KEsavam.Prathi Gacchathi”
The one who stumbles upon the lotus feets of Sriman Narayanan is sure to know other tastes are substandard.
“SAkiyam katrom, Samanam Katrom
BAgiyathAl VenkatkariyAnai Sendru AdaindhOm”
Even if Krishna is not known to be Supreme the love towards him will hijack us towards SriVaikuntam.
The moment Bhakthi steps in nyAnam the height of supremacy will be less considered, instead Shulaba, Sowseelyam will be considered.
Krishna’s down to Earth status is more valuable than Krishna’s supremacy.
GopikA’s Bhakthi is applauded by Krishna when compared to Vashishtar’s Bhakthi
Dasanudasan
definitely swamy ! Krishna is cho sweet. by liking Krishna , Rama and go deeper and deeper and we will know he his the supreme and he is the reason for everything and surrender. Saravam Krishna Arpanam
