Mitra bhavena is surrendering to Him as “means – upaya”. Whether material or Vaikuntha – they are the goals – Purushartha”. So Perumal accepts Saranagati even if it is not pure, and grants material wealth as the Bhakta desires that.

Sri Swamy Avargalukku,
Namaskaaram.
Adiyenin Bhagyam to get this nice clarification. Dhanyosmi, Swamy. 🙏.
Adiyen
Ramanujadasan.

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Adiyen thought that some or other devotees will add Velukkudi Swami’s additional Enpani #2567 that Swami released the extended queries after Swami’s above reply.

Anyway, the Take-A-Way in this Enpani #2567 is about Almighty GOD SriRama’s/SriKrishna “Mitra Bhavena” explanation applicable only for those who consider HIM as a Friend or atleast come to see HIM pretending to be a Friend, and NOT for cases where they come as an Enemy or being an Enemy but pretend as a Friend “Shatru Bhavena”. SriKrishna had to kill Poothana because, if HE allows her, then the Yadhu kulam Gopis/Gopas who believe in HIM will be killed, so HE had to kill her.

Radha devi’s devotion was more personal and intimate to Almighty GOD SriKrishna and Radha devi did not propagate publicly her intimacy towards SriKrishna, Her sufferings were due to her separation from SriKrishna and not able to be with SriKrishna like Alwars.

But here, our situation doesn’t reflect our urge to be with SriKrishna, rather it is more about our personal situational issues being attributed to SriKrishna publicly, where another upcoming devotee will be misled that SriKrishna is not our Saviour. Our scenario and Radha devi scenario are not one-to-one.

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For Adiyen’s self-motivation and for those interested devotees, adiyen would like to Para Phrase the same that adiyen mentioned above differently as:

• When upon life’s billows you are tempest tossed,
• When you are discouraged, thinking all problems are caused by Almighty GOD,
• Count your MANY Blessings received, Name them one-by-one and start writing a “Gratitude Journal” for yourself on daily basis and NOT an “Attitude journal” towards Almighty GOD on daily basis,
• And it will surprise you what the Almighty GOD (Sriman Narayanan) hath done for you”

Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayacharyAr) Dasan.

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

“But here, our situation doesn’t reflect our urge to be with SriKrishna, rather it is more about our personal situational issues being attributed to SriKrishna publicly, ”
Didn’t Azhwars have personal situational issues being attributed to SriKrishna publicly?

Or is it only me? 🤔

Adhavadhu namakku pidichava pannina adhu ” bhakthi ”
Pidikkadhava pannina adhukku peyar “personal situational issues”

Dasanudasan

I would rather prefer to be AjAmilan than Radha matha. Check if your Krishna is able to protect. I would call him “Ashakthan” if Krishna cannot preserve a “SharanAgathan”.
Dasanudasan

I will be more happy to be with an illiterate Bhaktha than a knowledgeable mystic in disguise

“NyAna BhAvena”

Dasanudasan

Sagumpodhu Narayana nu kupta dhan unga Perumal varuvara?

Ippa kupta Vara maatara?

Bhakthan na kashta padanum nu Perumal ezhudhi vechirukkara?

Panakkaran Bhakthi Pandraan
Yezhai Bhakthi Pandraan

Yatha Shakthi:

Avan Avan rangekku bhakthi Pandraan

Velukkudi Krishnan Swamye solli irukkar

Indran will do sthuthi of Bhagawan as
“Or rich lord”

Because he wants richness
Adhu Avan range

Me telling here
Brahma says
“NamO ananthAya sahasra murthaye,
Sahasra koti Yuga dhariney nama:”

Because Brahma lives YugAntharam so he praised Vishnu as such

Adhu avar range

So Ava Ava range ku Ava Ava bhakthi pannuva

Aduthava Bhakthi alakkaradhukku naama yaaru?

This mistake is happening repeatedly over here in this forum

Oru kashtam nu sollida kudathu
Arudhal soldratha vitutu

Nee seriya bhakthi pannala nu vyAkhyAnam kudukka vendiyadhu

Mudinja arudhal sollalam illa
Perumal kitta potta petition avar enna pandrarO adha pannatum

Dasanudasan

Whatever the spirituality details / philosophy / scriptures one read, understand, write, hear, experience what else., when it comes to the question of chronic issues / sufferings / problems esp., repeatedly happening in one’s life, desperation and depression enters. It may be true to check about the balance sheet and be contented with positive results in the account, may be true for those who has conquered the senses and mind / a Yogi. For others, when suffers, only the sufferer knows about the suffering and no one else. Naturally one tend to scold Him, if his prayers does not give relief.

And, in the case of saranagathan, since a big bagful of karmas are to be cleared in short period, both pleasure and pain can come in the process (both has to be exhausted) and He knows that we will scold Him, may be He likes that or may be He feels it comes out of dependence / Love towards Him. Any devotee (even upcoming), has to realise that Perumal has to remove a huge karma to take him to His abode. Spiritual journey need not be smooth for everyone and it depends on the karma.

I too scolded Him. It comes when our repeated prayers does not provide relief. I strongly believe, we should not compare our cases, being a very ordinary human (leave alone about saranagathan) with gods / goddess / devas. Even Indra repeatedly approached Perumal to overcome his problems.

Precious Gift
Brindavana Mahathmyam

My posting is purely based on the above video, some details in his website and I do not know the actual details.

In this video, I observed sri Krishna premi anna to be mentioning, anna’s bakthas. I learnt from the website that he founded a sampradaya named Premika Sampradaya, he is considered as an avatar and has bakthas of his own. Further it is mentioned that he initiates seekers to chant Hari Naama.

True, namasankeerthanam is part of Vaishnava sampradayam and this appears to be a different sampradayam.

Let us be devotees / bakthas of Lord Krishna only.