Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha.
Namaskaram.
Namasankirtanam is reciting Bhagavan’s thirunamam and reciting Divyaprabandham is also the same.
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigalae Sharanam.
Adiyen Dasan.
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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,
Dear BhagavAta,
Sri Velukkuddi Swami Arulaal, Acharyan Krupaiyaal, in one of Enpani, Swami says, YES, Chanting Divya Prabhantham is chanting BhagavAn’s Naamas (Kalayana Gunas) a.k.a Naama Sankeerthanam.
Swami says, Kaliyuga Dharmam is Naama sankeerthanam.
eg: Draupadhi says BhagavAn Naama “Govinda Pundarikaakshaam Rakshamaam Sharanagathaam”. BhagavAn himself did not come, but HIS naama itself saved her. So BhagavAn Naama is SAME as BhagavAn HIMSELF.
Naama Sankeerthanam in Sanskrit as Vishnu Sahasranaam.
Divya Prabhandham is Tamil Vedam, essence of BhagavAn’s Kalyan Gunas/Naamas.
BhagavAn naama is
- Protection (Rakshagatvam) for all Jeevathmas and
- Sweet (Inimaiyaaga) for all Jeevathmas.
Protection (Rakshagatvam) for all Jeevathmas
In ThondarAdiPodiAlwar’s “Thirumaalai”,
காவலில் புலனை வைத்துக் கலிதனைக் கடக்கப் பாய்ந்து
நாவலிட்டுழி தருகின்றோம் நமன் தமர் தலைகள் மீதே
மூவுலகுண்டுமிழ்ந்த முதல்வ நின் நாமம் கற்ற
ஆவலிப் புடைமை கண்டாய் அரங்கமா நகருளானே.
Alwar was initially afraid of Yama Dhoothaas, now Alwar says with Loud Voice that “I won’t be afraid and I will keep my feet on Yama’s head and Walk (நமன் தமர் தலைகள் மீதே)”. How did Alwar get this Courage suddenly who was initially afraid of yama dhoothaas. That is because Alwar joined HIS Mind/Body with SriRama’s ThiruNaamam (நின் நாமம் கற்ற).
So BhagavAn Naama is Protection (Rakshagatvam) for all Jeevathmas
Sweet (Inimaiyaaga) for all Jeevathmas.
In ThiruppaanAlzhwar’s “AmlanAadhipiraan” , Kondal Vannanai Kovalanaai Vennai Unda Vaayan (கொண்டல் வண்ணனை கோவலனாய் வெண்ணை உண்ட வாயன் )”…. Means BhagavAn is Sweeter (Inimaiyaanavar).
So BhagavAn Naama is Sweet (Inimaiyaaga) for all Jeevathmas
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Swami says, Naama Sankeerthanam is Marundhu/மருந்து (Medication) which saves us from this Samsaram, and that Marundhu itself is Virundhu/விருந்து (FEAST) for us .
BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn is Tattvam/தத்வம் (Absolute Truth)
But, Swami says, Tatvatthai Vida, Tattva Dharishikku dhaan Yettraam/தத்வத்தை விட, தத்வ தரிஷிக்கு தான் ஏற்றம் “. So Alwars Paasurams Supercedes BhagavAn’s Himself, since Alwars are Tattva Dharshi, “One who HAS VISUALIZED the TATVAM (BhagavAn).
So we all Bhaktas are Alwar/Acharyan/Jeeyar ThirivAdigalaey Sharanam through Piratti Bhootha-Bhoomi-Neela Devi Thayar Purushakaarathvam.
Ithai yellam Namakku Solli Kudutthu, Vazhi Kaatum Tattva Dharshi Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami ThiruvAdigalaey Sharanam.
இதை எல்லாம் நமக்கு சொல்லி குடுத்து, வழி காட்டும் தத்வ தர்ஷி ஸ்ரீ வேளுக்குடி கிருஷ்ணன் சுவாமி திருவடிகளே சரணம்.
Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
ஆல்வார்கள் வாழ்க அருளிச்செயல் வாழ்க,
Sarvam SriKrishanrpanam Asthu.
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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,
Also Swami NamAlwar gave the 4000 divya prabhandhams to Swami NathaMunigal which got transferred by Oran Vazhi Guru Paramoarai, and finally during Swami Ramanujar Avataram, Swami propagated the Alwar’s Arulicheyal to the world ?.
வான்திகழும் சோலைமதிளரங்கர் வண்புகழ்மேல் *
ஆன்ற தமிழ் மறைகளாயிரமும் * – ஈன்ற முதல்தாய் சடகோபன் * மொய்ம்பால் வளர்த்த இதத்தாய் இராமுனுசன்.
ஈன்ற முதல்தாய் சடகோபன்
Means Swami NamAlwar (Sadagopan) was the mother who gave birth to the Child (Divya prabantham).
மொய்ம்பால் வளர்த்த இதத்தாய் இராமுனுசன
Means Swami Ramanujar (EmperunanAr) was the Mother who fed milk to the child (propagated Divya Prabantham).
So we bhaktas says,
Perumal-Thayar-Alwar-EmperumanaAr-Jeeyar-Acharyar ThiruvAdigalaey Sharanam.
Pallandu Pallandu Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami ThiruvAdigalukku.
Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu.
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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha.
Namaskaram.
Thank you again Chowkidhar KongilPiratti dandha Pranamto you. You are very kind.
Thank you Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Acharya for your karunai in creating this dharama sandeha site , so that this neechan question is cleared by highly learned vaishnava who is kind and patience enough to answer my question.
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigalae Sharanam.
Sri Ramanujaya Thiruvadigalae Sharanam.
Sakala Sri Vaishnava Thiruvadigalae Sharanam.
adiyen dasan.
ஸ்ரீமதே ரங்கராமானுஜ மஹாதேசிகாய நம:
Divya prabandham has few conditions like anadhyayana (ஓத கூடா) kAlam where it cannot be recited at home except ThiruppAvai & Thirupalli Ezhuchi. Swamy explains it well in En Pani 516
while nAma sankeerthanam has no such conditions. It’s boundless anywhere anytime. So it’s essentially NOT the same.
Srivaishnavism is all being emotionally connected with Azhwars and AchAryArs.
Dasanudasan
Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Nandri Vikram Bhagavata for sharing Swami’s additional Enpani in this context.?
Additionally “Ramanuja Nooorthanadhi” is basically saying Swami Ramanuja’s Naamam 108 times in Slokam way which is also included in Anadhayana Kaalam, and it SHOULDNOT be chanted, but just chanting ‘Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha’ 108 times is A NaamaSankeerthan which is allowed and gas no restrictions. Also all Alwars-Acharyas “Sri Sookthikal” is allowed to recite at any time with no restrictions.
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Thiruvadigalaey Sharanam,
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Swamy,
That’s why adiyen carefully mentioned it as “condition” not “restriction”
Dasanudasan
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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Thiruvadigalaey Sharanam,
Dear Bhagavata,
Adiyen is only doing “PLAY-PAUSE-REWIND” on Swami’s audios and keep writing Swami’s words in intervals…?.
It is very ironic situation in present Kali yuga compared to Swami’s pravachanams.
Swami says,
* ACHIT (In-Sentient/Jada porul) has NO Gyanam, and Not covered with karmas.
* CHIT (Sentient/Chaitanyam udaya Porul) has ONLY Gyanam (all JeevAthmas), but covered with karmas.
But, in Kali juga, it is opposite to what Swami says,
Like,
Swami’s CD/mp3 is Achit and the Audio players are also Achit, but when we PLAY Swami’s audios, the Player speaks everything that Swami has said it in Live, even it speaks in the same voice as Swamis voice non-stop.
So Achit (mp3 audios/Audio players ?) have Full Gyanam, contradictory to Swami’s pravachanams.
Now, when I stop playing the Audio player, adiyen (CHIT ‘jeevathma) is NOT able to recollect anything.
So Chit (adiyen) has NO Gyanam.
Hence, the only Gyanam that adiyen has is PLAY-PAUSE-REWIND Swami’s audios and write.
So adiyen is Not a learned Vaishnava, which adiyen has been telling from adiyen’s first post. Adiyen is only a mere follower of “EmperumanaAr Dharishanam” like any other devotees.
Adiyen is Only SHARING/REGURGIRATING (vomiting) what Swami has been saying in CD’s with Acharya Krupai.
Since Swami is busy and if the question is left for a while, then adiyen try to share from Swami’s audios.
Adiyen Prefer ALL BhagavAtas in Swami’s Enpani satsangam to Share Swami’s authentic answers, so others are benefited, which few bhaktas are already doing it, and it should continue as a Kainkaryam, depending up on each BhagavAtas time and schedule.
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Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Thiruvadigalaey Sharanam,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu.
Kongil Piratti swamy, it is heartening to see your humility. Very nice. However you would definitely agree that the CD has merely information but no knowledge (jnanam) of the message conveyed by Swamy. In contrast, you may not be able to reproduce all the information; but you definitely have grasped the essence of Swamy’s message – the knowledge (jnanam) that is delivered.
So, the reality is not at all opposite of what our swamy conveyed.
But as a vaishnava it is not surprising to see your humility in expressing yourself to be lower than the inanimate things!
dasan
Swamy,
On “So Achit (mp3 audios/Audio players ?) have Full Gyanam, contradictory to Swami’s pravachanams.
Now, when I stop playing the Audio player, adiyen (CHIT ‘jeevathma) is NOT able to recollect anything.”
Swamy Sukha Bruhmma maharishi also has parrot beak. Swamy echos the Veda like a parrot. It is not easy to remember and recollect.
The ability to recollect comes from a clear mind. PeriyavAs minds are crystal clear without much drstraction. So they can focus and retrieve. Even multiple activites at same time like ashtAvadhAni or shathAvadhAni (multi processing).
Everything gets stored in buddhi. Babies easily recollect because they learn everything new. Once they grow older they start forgetting.!
Also Paramahamsa Swamy absorbs what is relevant and ignores irrelevant. This keeps their memory afresh.
Above all it is the Krupa of the Divya Dampathi of such a knowledge which mathematics genius Ramanujan acknowledged.
“It is scientifically proven that during sleep some information of awaken state can be retrieved. ”
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This means storage is not an issue only retrieval is. On the other hand according to Udayavar the dirt is obscructing the inbuilt knowledge of the soul.
So, are we learning everything new or is it pre-existing?
Dasanudasan
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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Yella Adiyaargaludaya Abhimaanatthurkku Nandri.
Sarvam Perumal-Thayar-Alwar-EmperunanaAr-Jeeyar-Acharyar-Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami ThiruvAdigalil Samarpanam.
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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Dear Chinnadurai Bhagavata,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami has beautifully graced in Enpani 1377 “Alwar paasurangal naama sankeerthanam aaguma” regarding BhagavAtas initial question.
Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu.
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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Namaskaram Swami.
Thank you Swami for clearing this adiyen question. Thank you Sriman Narayana for giving us Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy to us. Pallandu pallandu to Swami.
adiyen neechan.
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