non-veg based medicines in ayurveda

Updated on January 2, 2018 in Karma
6 on November 25, 2017

Swami,

Namaskaram!

It is very clear that one should not eat food which causes harm to to other living beings especially animals.

Most of the English medicines are encapsulated in gelatin capsules and some of them have animal oil etc.

But in Ayurvedic medicines also, few of them about 2-5% of medicines are based on animal ingredients. One person whom i know of was a staunch vegetarian and is an aspiring devotee, but his condition required that he needed some of these non-vegetarian based medicines to get back to normal health. he tried to avoid these and visited few other physicians..all them after few months ended up in prescribing these non-veg based medicines.

Even some physicians stated that the medicines are prescribed by Lord Dhawantri in ayurveda..

What should that person do ?

Is it ok in these special cases.. as the qty may be very small..and if the person uses his life for higher purpose then this can be discounted?

Or is it that the person has very strong karma which is not letting me to go sin free and forcing such circumstances?

Nandri

 

 

 

 
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0 on December 5, 2017

Swami

Any inputs on this query?

Nandri

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1 on December 7, 2017

Acharyar devarir sri u ve velukudi krishnan swamu thiruvadigale saranam ,adiyens perspective is ” anything done to save a life or prevent himsai just like a doctor performing surgery to save a life is acceptable ” sorry if theres any mistake in adiyens perspective

on December 15, 2017

Thanks for your clarification.but in this case..lower form of life is affected for saving higher form of life…is itacceptable?

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0 on December 10, 2017

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Devareer answer is correct. Exceptions are not examples. “Aapath Kaala Vidhi will prevail”. Eg: Udayavar wearing white dhothi incident to save own life based on instructions of perumAl from dream while his holiness had to wear kAshAyam (Saffron cloth) in normal circumstances.

Ref: Thirukovilur pen Pillai Rahasyam by Guruji Gopalavalli Dasar svbc2 channel.

Later upanyasams same Swamy explained we can “SEE UDAYAVAR EVEN NOW IF WE HAVE ATHMARTHA BHAKTHI IDHU SATHYAM”. Like Yatra Yatra raghunAtha keerthanam there we can see MAruthi.

It means they are beyond life and death. Here adiyen would like to quote Thirumalai Nambi swamy incident “If body snake wins I will do kainkaryam in Thirumala and if real snake wins I will do kainkaryam in Sri Vaikuntam”.

These SAmAynya dharman to sustain life should be there to do Thiru aArAdhanam/kainkaryam to perumAl, achAryAs and BhAgavathAs . To experience him. Not to just enjoy some materialistic benefits.

I don’t say materialistic benefits are not necessary but they too should facilitate/assist to increase BHAKTHI.

Like we typically use our phones and computers to view and learn from this dharma Sandeha forum.

We go by car to Divya desams. Those days they used to go by PAda yAtra (Walking). We know what is apt for us.

Those days they don’t take that much medicine and rarely visit doctor.

In Srirangam one real incident happened, adiyen went to Allopathic doctor, he said, “you people won’t come to us, just tulasi theertham will solve all issues, it’s surprising you are here”.

A brahmin should bathe in cold water even in MArgazhi month else he gets narakam. Ref: NambAduvAn charithram Sri U.Ve. Villur NadAthur KarunAkarAchAr Swamy upanyasam in Vijay TV.

If we go to geyser we know what we get. Technically these are ShAstram and we follow as much as we can (yathA shakthi) to please perumAl.

Pleasing him should be the ONLY objective.

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

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1 on December 23, 2017

Srimatae Ramanujaya Namaha

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

 

Thanks Bhakta’s,

 

Additionally, Based on SwamiPravachanams, the fundementals of Sanatana Dharmam is to Improve “Sathvika Gunam”, since BhagavAn Sriman Narayanan gets Pleased.

 

“Ahaara Suddhi” is ONE of the way to Improve Sathvik Gunam. There are many factors which affects Ahaara Suddhi.

 

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1) “KNOWN FACTORS” that CAN BE AVOIDED Easily:

a) Consumption of Non-vegetarian foods to be avoided totally as it is Praani Himsai and against Shastras/Vedas.

 

b) Even within Vegeterian food, only Sathvik vegeterian foods needs to be consumed and “avoid” Rajasik / Tamasik vegeterian foods like Onion, Garlic, Mushroom, Raddish, Drumstick etc…

 

3) Additionally, consuming these Sathvik vegeterian food WITHOUT offering to the SUPREME SriKrishna itself is a Paapam, since it is NOT a Prasadham , which leads to Rajas and Tamas gunas enhancements and we continue to make Paapams until we stop it and repent for the mistakes that we did.

 

The Above FIX is For “Known” mistakes that we commit, but it is a EASY FIX, since the CONTROL is on us and we can easily follow these as we all know.

 

“Offer only “Prescribed” Sathvik Vegetraian foods to SriKrishna and have it as a Prasadham “.

 

 

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2) “UNKNOWN FACTORS” that CAN BE AVOIDED when Known:

 

a) “non-vegetarian based medicines” is NOT under our control, since we are not manufactures and we are not aware which product has what type of ingredients.

b) However, consuming such medicines knowingly or unknowingly defenitely enhances Rajas and Tamas gunas.

 

c) If we are aware, then we have to avoid and look for alternatives.

 

d) We need to tell doctors that, we are allergic to Gelatin (animal products). Now, there are alternate “PECTIN” (plant based products) which can be used depending on necessity.

 

e) There is a section in the medical form which asks us, if we are allergic to anything. Some are allergic to Nut products, some are allergic to chemical products as well like sulphur which causes rashes. So doctors will give neccessary medicines accordingly depending up on patients situation as well.

 

One such example is, Due to such patients requests, now the medical indsutry has released “Flu Shots” with “No Egg products”.

 

 

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3) “UNKNOWN FACTORS” that “CANNOT” BE AVOIDED, since cannot be Known:

 

a) Not only about non-vegetarian medicines, but also “BLOOD TRANSFER”.

 

b) If we need A1B+ or B+ group etc…., then doctors will give us easily, but how to check that particular group blood is from a Sathivik person who don’t have any bad habits like:

Drinking, smoking, non-vegetarian habits, vegeterian habits but didnot offer to SriKrishna.

 

c) Even if that person don’t have such bad eating habits, but has bad attitude habits like foul mouth speech, ill behaviour etc…. then also Such Rajas/Tams gunas of that person will also get into our blood and affects our Sathva Gunas.

 

d) As of now, the medical industry can only match the blood group but there is NO “GUNA METER” to measure the percentages of Sathvik, Rajas, Tamas gunas in the blood. May be in later years that may also be invented if SriKRishna makes a Sankalpam.

 

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SOLUTION

 

THere are few solutions for all the above THree types of Situations:

 

a) “Guru-BHAKTHI”, means Gratitude towards Sathvik Gurus/Acharyas.

 

b) “Acharya Dhyanam” daily morning, minimum 5 minutes.

 

c) Guru Paramparai Chanting while doing Acharya Dyanam.

Like,

“Asmadh Gurubyo Namaha”

“Asmad Parama Gurubyo Namaha”

“Asmadh Sarva Gurubhyo Namaha”

(THese includes all PoorvAchryas from BHagavAN SrikRishna GItaAcharyan to Present Acharyas, and we willl receive their blessings all the time)

 

d) Saying “Sri Hari” seven times in the morning immedialty as soon as we get up from bed.

 

e) Walk towards the direction of SriRangam Temple, take 7 steps minimum and say “SriRanga Ranga Ranga Ranga ………”.

 

d) Everytime, before having the prescribed Sathvik Food Prasadham or Water, always say:

Sri Achuthaya Namaha (CLeanses our BOdy)

Sri Ananthaya Namaha (Cleanses our MInd)

Sri Govindaya Namaha (CLeanses ourself “The AThma”).

 

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Keep FOllowing these a) through d) at a minimum everyday, Good things will happen automatically, and any effects “DHOSHAM” due to UNkown factors or KNown factors will be taken care by BhagavAN SriKrishna, and HE will make us follow the SItuation 1) and help us on the situation 2) & 3).

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If the BHakta’s already has a Acharya Ramanuja Sambhandham, then SWami will protect us.

 

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Adiyen is still strugguling to keep these things in mind, but regular Practice with Acharyai Krupai and being in Sri Velukkudi KRishnan Swami’s Satsangam (ANugraham) which keeps us in good shape/Sathvika direction.

 

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All credits are due to to Swami and Acharya Krupai,

Any faults are due to adiyens Karmas.

 

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Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Thiruvadigalaey SHaranam,

Adiyen Acharya Dasan,

Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

 

Vennayum-Mannayum Saappittu Kondu Nouyillamal Irukkum SriKrishna ParamAthma ki Jai,

 

Sarve Janaha SUkhino BHavanthu,

Loka Samastha SUkhino BHavanthu,

 

Sarvam Sri Krishna KUdumbham.

on January 2, 2018

Nandri Thanks for the detailed explanation of all possible situations. The situation i referred to was slightly different in the case that person knows that the ayurvedic medicines prescribed to him has non-veg ingredients but all doctors confirm that there is no choice but to take it for his particular condition.! 

But the solution part described was very useful and applicable in all cases.

The details mentioned here will be helpful for many in future.

In this regard i would like to highlight that there are many chocolates  that are having gelatin as one of the ingredients mostly foreign made ones. Those who eat only prasadam are saved, but small children and youth who take chocolates have to be advised to be cautious by reading the ingredients. Some of them explicitly state gelatin..some of them specify as a code number.. (even some processd foods, chewing gum, biscuits , etc have them)

some examples are 

E 322 – Beef
E 422 – Alcohol
E 442 – Alcohol & Chemical
E 471 – Beef & Alcohol 
E 476 – Alcohol
E 481 – mixture of Beef and Pork 
E 627 – Dangerous Chemical
E 472 – mixture of Beef, meat & Pork 
E 631 – Oil extracted from Pig fats.
 
Also the following list is mostly from animals
SO the whole list to be cautious are 
 
egg, gelatin, collagen, E322 E422, E442, E471, E476 E481 E627 E472 E631 , E100, E110, E120, E140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252, E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475, E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542, E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
 
 
The list is going to become longer and complex in future.
 
Hope we can all return back soon before such complex situation.
 
NAndri
 

 

 

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