Srimatae Sarva Shastrartha TATVAT’yayai Namaha,
(Sarva Shastrathin Anaithu Arthangalayum Ulladhu Ulladhupadi Arindhu Vaithu Irukkum Swami Ramanujar’ai Vanangukiraen)
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,
(Namakku Swami Ramanujarin Arulai Vazhangum Swamiyai Vanangukiraen)
Dear Bhakta,
Now adiyen understood, why Bhakta us focussing more than 3 tatvams when Shastras says only about BASE 3 tatvams Onky.
The book that Bhakta is reading about Brahma Samhita uses word “tattva” at different places which is context sensitive.
Like the SriVaishnava Guru in that text uses “tattva” for sentences which relates to “energy” or “reality” or “concept”.
Like in other verses if Brahma Samhita , The Guru says,
* Purusha tattva/ Krishna tattva/ Vishnu tattva (Here it means ParamAthma concept).
* Jiva tattva (Here it means Chit concept).
* Manat tattva (Here it means Achit concep).
* achintya bhedha-Abhedha tattva (Here it means concept same as above).
* Svarupa tattva (Here it means reality).
*Acharya tattva (Here it means Chit Pious Athma concept)
* tattva of Anandhadeva ( This is ‘Energy’ of SriKrishna in a Chit “NithyaAthma” concept . Guru says about Adhisheshan which is nine other than Swami Ramanujar avataram in Swami’s upanyasams).
* Shiva tattva ( This is “Energy” of SriKrishna in a Chit “Baddhathma” concept).
So the ‘Tattva’ word in many places which is context sensitivity. All are correct.
Everything originates from the BASE CORE THREE Tatvams.
ENPANI #O7: One ParamaAthma, Countless Chit, Countless Achit.
Chit is breakdown into more. So saying tatvams to these subdivisions is also true, but it DOES NOT ADD to the BASE CORE THREE Tatvams based on SHASTRAS/VEDAS.
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The meaning of Brahma Samhita 5.45 is Govinda is like ‘Milk’ Distributes HIS ‘Energy’ through an ‘Agent’ (living entity, nothing but a JivaAthma) and transforms in to ‘Yogurt’ the Shiva Post.
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That is same as what Adiyen in the other thread answered as below based on Swami’s Upanyasams which is PoorvAcharyars teachings based on Shastras / vedas.
Clarification about pitrus and pitraloka
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B) Next about ‘HOW’ Sriman Narayan distributes HIS POWERS to other JeevAthmas
Sriman Narayana provides some of HIS Divine Qualities to other JeevAthams as below categories hierarchy in descending order.
1) ‘Poorna Avataram‘ is BhagavAn Sriman NARAYAN HIMSELF with “NO DISCHARGE” of powers to other Jeevathmas.
Example: SriRama, SriKrishna, Sri Narasimha, Sri Varaha etc… with ALL SUPREME DIVINE QUALITIES as we saw above in the three tatvams with Primary below 6 Qualities and many more Unlimited Divine Qualities.
“Gyana (Knowledge), Bhala (Strength), Veera (Valour), Aishwarya (Opulence), Shakthi (Energy), Thejas (Luster)
2) Shakthi (Energy) Avataram: A JeevAthma is given 100% of JUST ONE of Bhagavan’s divine quality like SHAKTHI. BhagavAn doesn’t give HIS remaining unlimited Divine Qualities to that Jeevathma.
Exmaple: Parasuram Avatar. Thats why Parasuram being a Jeevathma with only one of the Divine quality ‘Shakthi’ of SriRama had his anger dampened when the Poorna Avatara SriRama faced him.
3) Shakthi Aavesha Avatara: Only a PORTION (little bit) of the above Shakthi (Energy) quality is given to a JeevAthma.
Example: KarthiVeeryaArjuna being a ‘Shakthi Aavesha avatara’ was defeated when faced with ‘Shakthi avatara’ Parasuram who inturn was defeated by Poorna Avatara SriRama the SUPREME.
So, this is the Hierarchy how BhagavAn Sriman Narayanan DISTRIBUTES HIS divine qualities to other Jeevathmas.
Poorna Avataram >>>>>> Shakthi Avataram >>>>>> Shakthi Aavesha Avataram
[BhagavAn HIMSELF > ONE Quality imparted to a JeevAthma) > Portion of ONE quality of BhagavAN imparted to a Jeevathma].
In the same way, the third category of Shakthi “Energy” Charge (Shakthi Aavesha Avatara) to some JeevAthmas as, Brahma, Rudra etc., the resources required for creation and dissolution are drawn from the Supreme Lord ‘SRIMAN NARAYAN’ Poorana Avataram.
This doesn’t make these JeevaAthma as seperate Tatvam from the Three BASE CORE TATVAMS, since their base nature is Chit ” JeevAthma”.
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Please listen how Swami explains in KANNANIN ARULAMUDGAM CD ( This is about Srimadh Bhagavatam, how Sriman Narayanan creates the Leela Vibhoothi and assings a Jiva for Brahma post, then another Jiva chosen for Brahma’s son Shiva post. After Maha Pralayam, How Sriman Narayanan dissolves all posts including the World’s Brahma lokam, Shiva lokam etc…
Swami says in detail in this CD about THREE Tatvams and us more breakdown subdivisions.
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Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami ThiruvAdigalaey Sharanam,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Thayar-Perumal-Alwar-Emperumanaar-Jeeyar-Acharyar Thiruvadigalaey Sharanam,
Ranu Chod Rai SriKrishna BhagavAn ki Jai,
Sarvam SriKrishna Kudumbham.