Sri ranga nachiyar samedha sri ranganathan thiruvadigale saranam
Sri mathe ramanujaya namaha
Alwar empurumanar jeeyar thiruvadigale saranam
Swami,namaskaram
Some usually say that we should not offer fruits like water melon,papaya etc.., to god and thus we should not consume it.
Please tell me some prohibited fruits
Adiyen ramanuja dasan
Take a look
Custard Apple
No
Papaya
No
Water Melon
No
Pineapple
No
Plum
No
Nungu
No
Apple
No
Pear
No
Banana
Yes
Guava
Yes
Mango
Yes
Pineapple
Yes
Pomogranate
Yes
Jackfruit
Yes
Apple
Yes
All is Well !!
Adiyen
Pineapple comes under Yes & No. Kadavul Padhi mirugam padhi kalandhu seidha kalavaiyO? 🤔
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namah! Sri Sriranga Narayana Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Saranam! Sri Velukkudi Swamigal Thiruvadigale Saranam!
For a detailed explanation, Swami Vedanta Desikan has written a Grantham on Aahara Niyamanam, Sri Parthasarathi Dileepan Swami has provided a translation for that in English.
aagaara niyamam thaniyan seeraarum vEdhaantha dhEsi garkOn sezhumaRaiyi NnutporuLaich sindhai seydhE yaaraayndhu vaazhvuRavip puviyOr thangat kanbudanE yaagaara niyathi sonnaa NnEraaru methiraasa raruLi NnaalE yedhirnthavargaL singamena vingu vandhOn seeraarum vEngadavan RooppuR piLLai sezhunthiirutthaa LiNaimalaren senni mElE. aagaarath thiruvagaiyaa nanRun^ theethu marumaRaikoN dethiraasa rivaimo zindhaa raagaadha vazhivilakki yaakkuNG kaNNa Nnanaitthulagum vaazhavidhu saaRRi vaitthaan pOgaathu pOkkuvikku munivar sonna poyyaatha mozhigaLaiyum porundhak kENmi Nnaagaathen Ravaithavirnthaa madhuvE koNda vasagaranu maakangaath tharuLpeR RaanE. [1] vaayilallaa vaayilinaal vandha sORum varagumudha laagaathen Ruraittha sORum vaayininRum vizhumavaithaam patta sORum vaaykkoNda kavaLatthin migundha sORun^ theeyavar_kaN paduncOrun^ theethaR sOruNY seeraiyurai thummalivai patta sORu naaymudhalaa Nnavaipaarkkun^ theeNduNY sORu naadooythal laaccORu naNNaach sORE. [2] manisar_pasu mudhalaanOr mOndha sORu manisar_thami laagaathaar theeNduNY sORu minimaiyuda Nnaatharamil laathaar sORu meeppuzhun^oon mayirugirga LirukkuNY sORu munivarenun^ thuRavaRtthO reendha sORu munivar_thangaL paatthiratthiR patta sORu manisareli kukkudangaL kaagam poonai vaaykkoNda kaRisORu maruvaach sORE. [3] atthigaLpE raarkkiRali veNkath thaari yaalarasu naRuvilipuNG kaayi laarai putthikolli kuRincithaanRi kusumbai vELai punamurungai murungaisuga muLari yuLLi siRRavarai kommatti paNNai thoyyil seengaadan RERaloovai panaima yooran sutthiyilaa nilatthilavai kadambu kaaLaan suraipeerkkuch saNandhinnaar suruthi yOrE. [4] siRukeerai sevvagatthi murukki raNduNY siRupasaLai perumpasaLai yamma NandhaaL paRitthoruvar kodaathirukkath thaanE senRu paaynthedutthuk kuLLumavai pagiraak kooRuNG kuRitthaalun^ thinnavoNaak kaippu varppuNG koorkkumavai yazhalumavai kodumpu LippuNG kaRikkaagaa vivaiyenRu kaNdu raitthaar kaarmEni yaruLaaLar kadakath thaarE. [5] maalamudhu seyyaamal vandha vellaam varuvirundhil vazhangaamal vaittha vellaaNG kaalamidhu vanRenRu kazhittha vellaaNG kadaiyinvaruNG kaRi mudhala kazhuvaa vellaa noolisaiyaa vazhikaLinaal vandha vellaa nugaraadha thudanparakaNY seydha vellaaNY seelamilaach siRiyOraak kinivu nallOr selamalangaL pattanavun^ thinnaar thaamE. [6] dhEvarkaLuk kivaiyenRu vaittha vellaaNY sivanmudhalaath dhEvarkaLuk kitta vellaa maavimudha laanavaRRuk kaakaa vellaa madhuvidhuven RaRiyavari thaana vellaa naavilidu vadhaRkarithaa yiruppa vellaa nanRenRu thammuLLa misaiyaa vellaa mOviyan^aa LOvaadha poovuNG kaayu mutthamarka Lattuppu mugavaar thaamE. [7] kiLincinmudhal suttanasuN Naambu thaanuNG kiLarpunali lezhungumizhi nuraika daamum viLaindhathanin mudhanmaaluk keeyaa vellaam viLaindhan^ila maRugaampen Rezhundha vellaaNG kaLaindhamanath thaarmaRRuNG kazhittha vellaaNG kadiyamuthi Nniyamatthaar kazhittha vellaaNG theLindhapunaR RiruvEnga datthu maaRan RiruvaaNai kadavaathaar thinnaar thaamE. [8] mEralathu saarangaL vaangiR Rellaa muzhuppagalil viLanganiyun^ thaanan^ thaanu mOriravi leLLudanE koodiR Rellaa meLlathani leNNeythayir tharupaN daanga LOr_thavatthai mandhiratthai yozhippa vellaa muNNaatha naatkaLiloo Nandhip pOthoo NaaraNanaa radipaNiyu nallOr naaLu naLLiravi looNumivai yuNNar thaamE. [9] kuLimudhalaa Nnavaiseyyaa thuNNu mooNuNG koottallaap pndhiyilooN piRarkai yooNu naLimathithee viLakkaaga vuNNu mooNu naLLiravil viLakkinRi yuNNu mooNuNG kiLimozhiyaa LooNaan^iRkak kaNava NnooNuNG keezhOrai nOkkooNu midakkai yooNu moLimaRaiyOr maRRumuga vaadha vooNu moLiyaranga radipaNivaa rugavaar thaamE. [10] ecchiRanil vaarkkun^n^ey yirupaa kanga LirumpaaluNG kaiyaalu mitta vellaam pacchaiyalaaR kaditthakuRai pazhaiya voosal piRaragatthup paagancey theduttha vanna nacchinavai pazhitthavaimaN NaaRRan^ theethu nagatthaalE viNavaithaaNG kaaNU mooppum picchuLathaa mavaikaadi pinnai paagam pisinkadaniR sivandhathuvum pizhaiyoo NaamE. [11] thaathain^allaa siriyanmudhaR Ramaiya Nnecchi RaraNisurar sOmatthi lirundhu mecchin maadhaakadakuk kaNavanitha maana vecchin mayirpuzhun^ool vizhundhaalum punidha maNNin maadhavatthuk kooviLangaay mugavaa satthu maadhuLangaay maraNamvariR kazhittha vellaa mOthivaittha vuNNaan^aa Lukandha vettu muLavenRuNG kazhitthavaRRi NnanRaa mooNE. [12] maakarumbin saaRuthayir paaney paakku vaLaimiLagu thEnElam panin^ee raathi yaagarasan^ thooythaagu maRiyaa vellaa maRiyaathaark kaRiyaLavun^ thooya vaaguNY saagaranga dooyanavaa moovaakkaL koodiR salamellaaNG gangaiyathaa muparaa katthin maagarangaL piNamudhalaa manaitthuNG koNdu varupunalun^ thooyathaagum vEgath thaalE. [13] theeyaalE neerozhiya vEndha vellaan^ theeyidutha lozhindhidavE pazhuttha vellaan^ theeyaalu neeraalum vendha vaRRiR RERavular nellumudha laana vellaa moosaadha maavadaka mappaNY seedai yurottimudha laamavaRRiR pazhaiya thEnuNG koosaathE koNdidumin puthiya thEnuNG koLLEnmin RannirathaNG kulaindhak kaalE. [14] thalaippayanaam vigaarangaL saaga dangaL sakkaranga danakkadaittha marundhu thaanuNG kalakkamilaa nanneeril vaittha sORum kaRimOrn^ey paaRayir_kaL kalandha sORum vilakkamilaa maakkannaR kOthu matthaal viLaivuRavaak kiyan^alvi kaaran^ thaanu milaikkaRipO livaiyanaitthum pazhaiya vEnu men^n^aaLum vaitthuNNa visaigin RaarE. [15] thayirthannin vigaarangaL pooviR kaayiR pazhatthilvaruNY saaRoosa Rooya vaagu muyirazhiyaa maikkuNNaa voosa luNNi luRakkazhuvi neythEnit tuNNa laagum payinmaRain^oo luraiyaatha pazhaiya voosal pazhippilathaa neyyaalen Ruraitthaan sangan mayirmudhalaa Nnavaipinnum patta thaayin maNNeermaR RuraitthavaRRaal varanga LaamE. [16] orukuLambi yirukanRi yotta kappaa luppudanpaan mOrudanpaan maadhar thampaal karuvudaiya vaRRinpaal kanRi laappaan maRukanRaaR kaRandhidumpaa Ririndhi dumpaa RirumaLaar kaNavanalaath dheyvath thinpEr sinnamudai yavaRRinpaal semma Rippaal parivathilan^ thaNarvilaippaal sembi NniRpaa Reethaampaa livaiyanaitthum parugaap paalE. [17] gangaiyalla thiraNdaan^aaL vaittha neeruNG kaalkazhivi migun^eeruNG kalanga Nneerun^ thenginuLa thaayttheeyaaR kaayndha neeruNY siRukuzhin^eer vazhitthaNNeerp pandha NneeruNY sangaiyudai neervaNNaan RuRaiyi Nneerun^ thaaraiyinaa lEcchilithu venRa neeruNY sangukala maakkoNdu parugu neerun^ tharaiyilvizhaa mazhain^eerun^ thaviru neerE. [18] veRRilaimun RinnaathE thinnum paakkum veRRilaiyi Nnadin^uniyu naduvi leerkum veRRilaiyum paakkumudan koottith thinnum vidhavaikku mudhanmudivaach siramath thaarkkum veRRilaiyuNY suNNaambi Nnilaiyu maRRum viradhangoN didun^aaLveR Rilaiyum paakkum veRRilaithin Nnaan^iRkap parugu neerum vidhaiyenavaith thathuthinalum vilakki NnaarE. [19] saathiguNa maacchiraman^ dhEsaNG kaalan^ tharumanga NimitthangaN mudhalaa vOthum pOthamudha laagavoru thiravi yandhaan parindhun^alan^ theenginaiyum peRRu niRkum paathamisaip piRanthOrkkuk kabilai yinpaal parugidalaa kaathenRu maRaiyOr sonnaa rathalinaa lOthiyuNarn^ thavarpaa lellaa madikkadiyuNG kEttayarvu theermi NneerE. [20] kangiruLaal vidiyaadha vulaguk kellaNG kaiviLakkaa mivaiyenRu kaNnan kaattum pongupuga zhaagamanga deLiyach sonna poruLivain^aam puNNiyar_paaR kEttuch sonnO mangudalum poruLumalla thaRiyaa maandhar valaiyuLagap pattuvaram pazhiyaa thenRum pangayamaa thuRRavaru LaaLar thampaaR patthimigu pavitthirangaL payinmi NneerE. [21] seeraar thooppil thiruvEngadamudaiyaan thiruvadigaLE saraNam.
Commentary
Thanian:
The vEdhaantha dEsikar, the one with the grace of
Ethiraajaa stood like a lion and triumphed over many
debating adversaries; researched the vEdhaas and
saasthraas, with the view to guide us in choosing foods
that ennoble us and avoid foods that debase us, has given
us this prabhandam called aagaara niyamam. I shall
wear His flower like thiruvadi as an ornament on my
head.
[1]
All chEthanaas must understand that there are two kinds
of foods, those that are ennobling (saathveega) and those
that are debasing (thaamasa). These are described by
KaNNan in sri bagavath geethai, by Ethiraajaa in
srimadh geethaa bhaashyam, and by many rishees in
many saasthraas and smrithees. By following these
principles, ajakaran attained mOksham. Likewise, we
must understand and follow these rules.
[2] Forbidden foods:
- Foods that are not brought into the house through
the main door.
- grains such as varagu, etc.
- foods that mingle with stuff that have fallen from
the mouth
- remainder of what was put into the mouth
- foods seen by immoral people
- foods that are burnt
- foods touched by clothes, or contaminated by
saliva or sneeze.
- foods seen or touched by dogs
- foods cooked on days such as Ekaadhasi
[3] forbidden foods continued...
- foods smelt by animals or people
- foods touched by people with decease
- foods that are not offered with kindness
- foods contacted by fly, worm, thread, hair, and
nail
- foods offered by sanyaasi or touched by his vessel
- foods touched by the mouth of people, rats,
chicken, crow, and cat.
[4]
This paasruam lists the vegetables that are forbidden. I
can't recognize many of them. Of the ones I am able to
recognize, I don't know the English names. The rest are
listed below.
white eggplant, lotus stem, garlic, certain kinds of
spinach, mushroom, certain kinds of drumstick
[5] More forbidden foods:
Vegetables taken from other's garden without
permission, portion that is set aside for oneself prior to
the partaking of the rest of the group, foods that are
exceedingly bitter, salty, pepper hot, or sour.
[6] More forbidden foods:
Foods that were not offered to our Lord, foods that were
not offered to the guests, foods that were cooked without
first cleaning them, foods earned in immoral ways,
cooked with other foods that are forbidden, cooked by
unclean children, and foods that are contaminated by
excrements.
[7] forbidden foods continued...
- foods intended for dEvathaas
- foods offered to dEvathaas such as Sivan
- foods that harm our praaNan and indhriyam
- foods that are unrecognizable
- foods that are intolerably hot
- foods that are not palatable to the mind
- vegetables and flowers that bloom in an untimely
fashion
- dirty salt.
[8] forbidden foods continued...
- Calcium (suNNaambu) extracted from sea shells
- bubbles and froth from water
- foods that are not offered to our Lord
- harvested from the stems that were previously
harvested
- foods avoided by learned persons with pure heart
[9] forbidden foods continued...
- Foods from which the essence is taken out, except
buttermilk
- viLaam fruit and popped rice during the day
- foods prepared with curd and sesame seed oil,
during night time
- foods that are said to give magical powers
- no foods on Ekaadasi days, and at dusk or
midnight.
[10] Do not eat,
- before your shower and sandhya japam
- alone, eat with a group of bhakthaas
- foods that are mashed by someone else
- under the moonlight or fire
- husband and wife together
- while staring at inferior individuals
- with your left hand
- anything that is avoided by religious people.
[11] Do not eat,
- ghee that is served after you have begun eating
- foods that have been cooked twice (reheated?)
- foods served by bare hand or spatulas made of
iron, uncooked foods may be served by bare hand
- foods already bitten into,
- old, and spoilt foods
- foods prepared in someone else's house (no
potluck)
- foods that someone else wanted or rejected
- foods with smell of earth, or separated by finger
nails, salt that you can see
- separated for one self and guests
- sap coming out of trees, except asafoetida.
Foods that may be accepted are listed now.
[12] Accept without hesitation,
- foods with the saliva of one's father, teacher, and
first older brother
- Saliva in the sOmaa vessel during sOma yaagam
- foods with husband's saliva for wife, if such food
is contaminated with hair, worm, or thread, these
may be removed properly and the food accepted
- maadhuLangaay, only during our Lord's muga
vaaSa soorNam
- all prohibited foods during calamitous times
- water, roots, ghee, milk, havis from yaagam,
nimandhraNam, guru's teachings, and medicine
may be accepted even during fasting days.
[13] Accept without hesitation,
- sugar cane juice, yogurt, milk, ghee, beetle nut,
pepper, honey, cardamon, water made from snow
- anything until you realize its blemish
Dip in the ocean is permitted on full moon day and new
moon day. During times of lunar and solar eclipse all
waters will be considered equal to gangaa water; water
in rivers, even if it carries horses, donkeys and cadaver,
will become purified with current.
[14] Accept without hesitation,
- foods cooked without water
- fruits ripened on their own accord
- boiled rice
- vadaam, snacks such as appam, seedai, rotti, even
if they are old, but tasty; do not accept foods that
are fresh, but not tasty
[15] Accept without hesitation,
- Foods prepared with milk, like thirattuppaal
- snacks like thEnkuzhal, muRukku, etc.,
- medicines prescribed by physicians, flower,
vellam, wheat
- old rice that is soaked in clean water may be taken
with buttermilk, ghee, milk, yogurt
[16] Accept without hesitation,
- snacks made of yogurt and juice of flower,
vegetables, and fruits; these are OK even if they
are slightly spoilt.
- foods that are spoilt may be taken during
calamitous times by cleansing them and adding
ghee and honey. If these foods are further
contaminated with hair or other unclean stuff,
cleanse them with sand and water.
[17] Forbidden milk
- milk from one hoofed animals like horse or
donkey
- cow that has twin calf, or camel milk
- salt added milk
- milk from women
- milk from pregnant cow
- milk extracted with the help of calf that does not
belong to the cow
- cows that belong to temples (?)
- goat milk, milk bought from brahmins
- milk kept in copper vessels, burnt milk
[18] Forbidden water
- Water from previous day, except gangaa water
- remainder of water used for cleaning feet
- murky water
- heated coconut water
- water gathered in a ditch
- water offered in "water-sheds"
- doubtful water, water taken from where
washermen work
- water contaminated by saliva
- water from conch
- rain water that has not fallen on the ground
[19] about beetle leaves
- don't chew beetle nut without beetle leaves
- don't consume the bottom, stem, or tip of beetle
leaves
- don't chew beetle leaves and nuts at the same time
- widows, sanyaasi, and bachelors must not
consume beetle leaves
- don't consume the beetle leaf used to keep calcium
- never use beetle leaves on fasting days such as
Ekaadasi
- don't drink water while chewing beetle leaves
[20]
A particular food item may be acceptable or forbidden
based on the caste, stage in life, geography, time of
eclipse, individual dharmam, etc., etc. For example, it is
said that milk from kapilai cow is acceptable for
brahmins, but forbidden for shudraas. Therefore, one
must approach learned people and get your doubts
clarified.
[21]
For the benefit of people who live in this world
characterized by lack of wisdom, Lord kaNNan showed
many principles in saasthraas. After consulting with
aachaaryaas these principles have been laid out in this
prabhandam. Guard yourself against the agnostics who
believe only in this transient body and world. Consume
only those saathvega foods that helps us amplify our
devotion to the thiruvadi of pEraruLaaLan.
For further reading, adiyen is also found this nice text.
Right from Vedic literature down to the Itihasas and Puranas, we find scattered references to vegetables and other edibles that can be consumed and those that are better avoided in order to ensure the augmentation of Satva and preclusion of Rajo and Tamo.
Here we tried to collect some basics on aahara niyamam laid by our Acharyas.
According to Swami Ramanuja, There are three kinds of food to be avoided, as enjoined in the Sruthi. The classification covers the details of the discrimination to be followed among vegetarian foods, and it is understood that non-vegetarian to be completely avoided.
They are known as
Omitting these kinds of Food is viveka with reference to the body, resulting in kAyasuddhi(Purity of the body), physical purity. The purity observed in eating helps one to attain satthvasuddhi(purity of the mind) which in its turn helps to attain dhruvasmrthi(continuous and constant association with lord),
1) JATHIDUSHTAM: Vegetables to be avoided: Country Fig (அத்தி), White Fig (இறலி), White Egg Plant/White Brinjal (வெள்ளை கத்தாரி), Fruit and flower from banyan tree (ஆல்)/ Peepal Tree, palm heart, Onion, Garlic, Drumstick, சிறிய அவரை (A small type of beans, small avarakkai), Mushrooms (காளான்), Radish (முள்ளங்கி), Bottle Gourd (சுரைக்காய்), Ridge Gourd (பீர்கங்காய்), Celosia (பண்ணைக் கீரை), Unripe Pomegranate (மாதுளங்காய்), Lotus Stalk (தாமரைக் கிழங்கு), Pasalakkeerai (பசலைக்கீரை), Sanarkeerai (சனர்க்கீரை), Sirukkeerai (சிறுக்கீரை), Red Agathik keerai (சிவப்பு அகத்தி), pannaikkeerai, thoyyirkkeerai and all that grew on tainted ground. Other than Asafoedita (பெருங்காயம்) any food item that is made out of the sap of trees is to be avoided.
2) ASHRAYA DUSHTAM : Food that is bought through money earned in illegitimate ways (not authorized by the sastras), Food that is borrowed from a sanyasi and food that has come in contact with a sanyasi’s vessel, Unwashed fruits/vegetables bought from outside shops are to be avoided
3) NIMITTHA DUSHTAM : Food that has been contaminated by the presence of flies, worms, hair, nails, Spittle, cloth (ie food that spills on to our clothes), thread, sneeze, saliva (even its is of one’s own), partially `bitten’ by others are to be avoided
Other than above some division on taste, time, etc :
Food which can be consumed without restriction :
Sri Ramanujacharya’s Sri Bhasyam – `Sarvanna Anumatyati Karanam’ Sutras 446 to 448 declares – that in times of danger to life one can consume any food and such intake will not go against Pramanas and Smritis. But, SUTRA 449, However, Clearly and Categorically Forbids Consumption of Liquor even in the Face of Danger to Life.
Hope this helps.
Adiyen
In general, any addictive item is prohibited, as it will hinder our spiritual growth.
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Pathram pusham phalam thoyam
Yo me bhakthya prayacchathi
If we give anything AthmArtham it is fine. Eg: Vithura neethi. Not the neethi told by Vithura but the activity he did in front of Krishna.
He submitted the fruits unconsciously Krishna accepted. When He became conscious Krishna stopped eating.
These shastram apply for conscious souls only
Dasanudasan
When Krishna asked for bhaktha’s foot dust that will heal his fever even Maharishi Vasishta and Uddhava backed Off.
As per shasthram that will yield to 1000 years of sins.
While GopikAs started scrubbing their feets. Their intention was that of periyAzhwar pallAndu pallAndu. Krishna should be fine no matter what.
They didn’t care about 1000 years sin – Sri Krishna Premi Anna
