Dhanyosmi Swamy

Thanks for providing response. However, Mukti itself means liberation and nothing to do with material elevation.

Further, this gradation is found in many books on Visishtadvaitam also. They say, among Tenkalai and Vadakalai tradition, one believes in gradation even in Moksha and another does not. Those are all from authenticated writers only.

So, awaiting response from Shri Velukkudi Swamy in this regard.

However, if Swamy feels this question cannot be addressed in public, kindly ignore Adiyen’s question.

Sarvam Shri Krishnaarpanamastu!

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

“Mukti itself means liberation and nothing to do with material elevation.”
KAmyArthi is not a mukthAthmA Swamy. Its only for material benefits.

What is liberation from material world?

Becoming invisible and again visible is it? That’s not the point. We go beyond Tamas.

Tamasa paramO dhAthA Shanku Chakra GadhAdhara:

Na cha punar Avarthathey

Once we go to such a state we cannot get back.

But wait this is what adiyen found in WhatsApp day before and I do not endorse these views

By the way Srivaikuntam is the real Swargam as per Sanskrit definition. Never ending /long lastimg Anandam. One Sanskrit friend told me.

Going by that definition let’s read this post:

சொர்க்கம் என்றால் ஒன்று தானே என நினைக்கலாம். ஆனால், அங்கும் நான்கு வகை இருக்கிறது.

1.சொர்க்கத்தின் வாசலில் நுழைவதை ‘ஸாலோக்ய மோட்சம்’ என்பர்.

2.பின்னர் தெய்வம் குடியிருக்கும் வீட்டுக்குள் சென்று தெய்வத்தின் அருகில் போய் நிற்பது ‘ஸாமீப்ய மோட்சம்.

3.இதையடுத்து அத்தெய்வத்தை கண்கொட்டாமல் பார்த்து அப்படியே உருகி, அந்த உருவமாகவே மாறிவிடுவது ‘ஸாரூப்ய மோட்சம்’.

4. அந்த தெய்வத்துடன் ஒன்றி அதனுடன் கலந்து விடுவது ‘ஸாயுஜ்ய மோட்சம்’.

இவற்றையெல்லாம் பார்க்க வேண்டுமானால், இங்கே கொஞ்சமாவது புண்ணியம் செய்ய வேண்டும். நல்லதை மட்டுமே மனதில் நினைக்க வேண்டும். செய்த புண்ணியங்களுக்கேற்ப பலன் கிடைக்கும்.

ஓம் நமோ நாராயணா….

Dasanudasan

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

I have this sane question i second your question.

Dasanudasan

First of all i don’t believe in sAdhanA for moksham.

Ya yagena, na tapasa sats Krishna

The question i have is can these alterations occur in moksham?

I hope we can. That’s because we are not bound by any materialistic bondage that restricts us from the anubhavam.

Let’s meet in moksham & find out

*Na yAgena na tapasA we can’t get him by yAgam or Tapas says Krishna

Its his effort not our effort

We may but it will take many janmAs by own efforts. Still it is because of his coming forward not our pure efforts.

So no sAdhanA can equal Krishna except Bhakthi.

So bhakthi roopApanna gyAnam

We are his servants only that can give moksham

VishishtAdvaitam prohibits pure nyAna mArga attainment says there is no such thing as pure NyAnam that discards bhakthi

Coming to devareer question avan edhu kuduthAlum ethukka vendiyadhu dhAn

Dasanudasan

Adiyen Swamy,

How can I get this audio clip 1657? Unable to find it Enpani. Any other youtube link of Velukkudi Swamy regarding the types of Mukti?

Dasan

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

‘G’ Swami. Adiyen mentioned the same enpani 1657 in above thread that Velukkudi Swami has Graced answer, but adiyen’s emonji with simely face and Anjali hands are now ????, may  be some website error…I think it misleads.

Other posts as in below thread  are also like that, emonji’s are gone..

https://www.kinchit.org/dharma-sandeha/thread/buffalo-milk/

Adiyen Srinivasa DhoddayAcharyar Dasan