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Sant Kabir and Sri Krishna

Updated on March 4, 2024 in Acharyas
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9 on February 6, 2024

Hare Krishna

Yesterday I asked a question on Sant Kabir but Bharat Prabhuji asked me not to ask such questions but I am helpless as I came in contact with Sant Rampal and his videos and books few days ago which totally shook my faith on Krishna Conciousness. He follows Kabir Sagar written by Sant Garibdas which was told to him directly by Sant Kabir in Satlok and sent back to Earth to preach these events and in that book it is said that Sant Kabir is original God and helped Lord Hanuman get powers and get salvation in the form of sage Munindra in every Kalpa and manvantara and he also said that Lord Kabir is only one and real whereas all other Gods like Sri Rama and others sre many in number and are forms of Maya and also helped Lord Ram and Lord Krishna in their various tasks like in building Ram Setu bridge. Sant Rampal and many Kabir panthis insult our deities like Lord Ram and Lord Krishna using their scriptures. And he is really well versed with all scriptures and what he says seems logical and apparent and with this he proved that all scriptures agree that Sant Kabir is supreme and is the only Purna Brahm and he also said that Bhagavad Gita was actually said by Kaal Purush or Brahm by giving example of few verses like Bhagavad Gita verse 11.32

Sant Rampal insults other spiritual people and organizations as well calling them fake and that they hid the evidence that Sant Kabir is Supreme God mentioned in all scriptures secretly as Kavir or Kabiran and

I am really weak in spiritual matters and believe people easily especially sadhus as they tend to speak the truth and Sant Dharamdas ji was a great Sadhu during his time so I believed what he wrote in Kabir Sagar as true but so Pls Pls Pls help me by giving some hard-core evidence

or suggestion or appropriate explanation pls I am really very sad sad and depressed as nearly lost my faith and can’t concentrate on my spiritual or material activities

Pls help me

Hare Krishna
Adiyen

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கம்பன்தாசன் 3 on February 6, 2024

Dear Deb,

this is the very problem I tried to highlight in the previous response. As you have rightly said “I am really weak in spiritual matters”; we all are ignorant and not capable of understanding the vastness of the scriptures on our own merit. It is like a blind man trying to understand the elephant. If we try to understand by our own interpretation it is bound to be wrong. The only way we can know the elephant is to hear about it from a person who has proper vision. Similarly, the only way we can know about the spiritual life and spiritual world is from a person who is situated in the spiritual platform. If you can find one such person stick to that person.

If you feel in the core of your heart that Ramanujacharya is that person, then stick to one of his sincere followers and try to understand the spiritual world / spiritual life from that person. He is your Guru / acharya.

If you feel in the core of your heart that Srila Prabhupada is that person, then stick to one of his sincere followers and try to understand the spiritual world / spiritual life from that person. He is your Guru / acharya.

If you keep on browsing different speakers from different forums, you will not be able to identify the genuine representatives from pseudo representatives. There are good and bad representatives in all sampradayas; and we will not be able to distinguish them; we will be totally confused. And even worse, there are many totally wrong schools of philosophies too!

Therefore, identify one person who can guide you; if you experience steady progress in your inner spiritual pursuit, then stick to that person. This way you will be saved. Otherwise, we will be like the ‘wife’ who depends on a new husband each day of existence.

adiyen

S on February 8, 2024

Namaskaram,
Adiyen advice is that please stick to our Sri Ramanujar’ principles to get to the right or true path…
Elese, it would take many Jenmas( rebirths) to attain the same ( again via Sri Ramanujar only).
Its not to be treated as a blind advice but consider it in goodwill sense.

Uyya ore vazhi Udayavar Thiruvadi!!

Surrender to SriRamanujar to attain the ultimatum ( SriVaikuntham).

Adiyen Ramanujadhasan.

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Deb on February 8, 2024

Namaskaram
Are Kabir panthi scriptures like Bijak (spoken by Sant Kabir to Sant Dharmadasji) , Kabir Sagar and other Kabir panthi scriptures interpolated as they insult Vaishnavas and also call Sant Kabir supreme and that he created Kaal Niranjan who is not good that is who traps people in birth and death and he only created Trimurti. Many Kabir panthis claim Vishnu or Shiva are not real Gods but Kaal only and one can’t get salvation by worshipping them and Kabir Panthis also insult them and tell Bhagavad Gita was told by Kaal and only by satnam can one get salvation. They also say that these Gods are Maya and only Sat Purush Sant Kabir ji is supreme rest all paths and religions lead to hell.Kabir panthis also said that many Vaishnavas like Sant Mirabai and even Lord Hanuman became devotee of Sat Purush after meeting Sant Kabir in disguise of a sage they also say that Vaishnavas like Sant Tukaram , Sant Namadev and Sant Jayadeva became surat shabd yogis(satnaam) later in their lives I used to think that Sant Kabir was a Vaishnava but they seem to tell some other story. So are the Kabir Panthi scriptures interpolated and claims made by them about the Vaishnava sants bogus, fraudulent and sectarian. Pls help me in this regard with evidence and suggestions so I could free my mind from this clutter and feel better and my faith on Vaishnavas increase as I am a beginner and still novice
Adiyen

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vikraminside on March 4, 2024

When Kabir is a Sri zvaishnavite who are we to question Kabir ke Dohe?

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vikraminside 0 on March 4, 2024

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

“I am really weak in spiritual matters and believe people easily especially sadhus as they tend to speak the truth and Sant Dharamdas ji was a great Sadhu during his time so I believed what he wrote in Kabir Sagar as true ”

Answer is:
“Ekam Sath Vipra Bahudha Vadanthi”

“When Krishna says it is AmavAsya” , it’s not ” When AmAvAsya Krishna does tarpanam”.

When Krishna does Tarpanam it becomes AmavAsya then why your faith is Shaken?

Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on March 4, 2024

Sri:
One more answer:
Krishna Premi Swamigal:

Krishna showed chathur bujam (4 hands) to Arjuna while only two hands were visible to all others.

So every Sadhu will have his/her own experience which could be true according to their own vision.

Adiyen will disagree with KambanDasan Swamy when it’s about spiritual Vision. Whether it is blurred or clear, it’s true at that point in time according to VishistAdvaita Siddhantham.

My vision was blurred so I mistook musquito🦟 to an 🐘 elephant could also be true. May be Musquito was so near to my eye making me think it was huge.

Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on March 4, 2024

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

Speaking about Kaal and Spiritual Vision

Bhattathree had watched (envisoned) Guruvayoor appan as Narasimhan and former fell unconscious.

Now I say “Narasimha AvathAram took place in Kali yugam”

Challenge me if you can

Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on March 4, 2024

Sri:

The older married Sri Krishna showed how he was as a baby to Yashoda amma as she could not experience baby Krishna

This is one proof Sri Krishna is beyond time and place.

Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on March 4, 2024

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

With due respects, Sri la Sri Prabhupad Swamy had inconsistent opinions on Brahmins.

Are we not acknowledging ISKCON ?

I was forced to attend marriage of my daughter (As Chithappa) to an intercaste reception.

I don’t endorse such acts but that father came to my appa’s death. So I attended the marriage showing gratitude and courtesy.

Comedy is bride’s side almost everyone adorned Thiruman as if they want to showcase vadakalai Iyengar. Ellam Neram.

My question:
How that VadhyAr Swamy conducting marriage just for money? Why is he not denying?

“I will not conduct such marriage as it is shastra viruddham?”

How will the boy tell AbhivAdaye?

The beauty is, the bride is granddaughter of a well known position in an Ashram.

Ava manasu evlo kashta padum?
Apdi enna love vendi kedakku?

Iyengar pasanga unga kannukku theriyadha?

Appo non-veg sapduvela?

A mami in Shankara TV saying “I am intercaste but saying Rama nama” is she wanting an acknowledgement from exceptionally pure growing kid Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swam’s son Sri Ranganathan.

Yen Ranganathan Swamy ozhunga irukkardhu ungalukku porukkalaya?

Idhu endha vidhathil nyAyam?
Neenga kettadhu pathadhu nu upcoming generariona yen kedukkarel?

What will sibling say?
My sister can marry why not me?

How will the parents convince?

See technically the entire brqhminical structure falls down.

After intercaste marriage why are you calling yourself Brahmins? What justice? How will you perform rituals?

Idhula shastra sampradhayam nu namakku advice adhan innum kodumai

Dasanudasan

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