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Splitting of Vedas

Updated on August 6, 2017 in Holy Books
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5 on August 3, 2017

Namaskarams!

I heard in Swami’s Vishnu Puranam upanyasam that originally Vedas were one then Sri Veda Vyasar split it into Rig, Yajur, SAma and Atharvanam for Kali Yuga people to better understand. Swami also mentioned that Rig Veda contains all mantras for which the meaning ends in a padam, Yajur Veda contains all mantras in which the meaning may or may not end in a padam. SAma Veda contains song-like mantras and Atharva Veda is a mix of Rig, Yajur and SAma type mantras.

We see that some rituals of Rig Vedis, Yajur Vedis and SAma Vedis change or are different from each other, so does that mean in the original one Veda, there were 3 versions of the same ritual (eg- marriage, seemantham, etc) one version where the rituals are done by chanting mantras of Rig type, one version where the ritual mantras were of Yajur type, and one version where the ritual mantras were of SAma type?

Thank you.

 

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Adiyen - Krishna Dasan 0 on August 3, 2017

Hare Krishna! Aneha koti namaskaram swami!

 

Swami in Bhagavad Gita discourse touches upon this topic that Veda is meant for all kinds of people and asramas (a.k.a varnasrama). So a set of prescriptions for say 1 varna (who is predominantly situated in ‘rajo’ guna), should not be practiced by someone else who is situated in ‘satva’ guna and vice versa. So one should try to gradually elevate from ‘tamas’ to ‘rajas’ to finally ‘satva’ guna and practice the rituals accordingly.

 

Again, for kali yuga, ‘common’ prescription (by many purvacharyas) is to chant/sing holy name of the lord. Heard from a devotee that a ‘archagar’ should take bath 3 times a day from well water. There is no well in the cities today and even if there is any, there is no water left out.

 

Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu!

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Narayana97 3 on August 5, 2017

Namaskarams Swami!

So does that mean that the one Veda contained 3 versions of each ritual for rajo, tamo and sattva guna people? Then each Rig, Yajur, and SAma veda would contain all three versions right so that their followers can follow the one that better suits them?

Thank you for taking the time to answer adiyen’s question.

 

vikraminside on August 5, 2017

Dasanudasan

It strictly depends on our abhivadhaye. Adiyen is “Yaju: ShAkA adhyAyee”.

We follow our ancestors. They followed a pattern based on maharishis. BhArgava, ShyAvana, AapnavAna , Auruva , JAmadagnya panchA rishis for yajur Vedi.

Adiyen not sure if veda is related to Guna. Then what about Atharva shAkA (Branch). Which gunA is predominant?

Dasanudasan

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Adiyen - Krishna Dasan on August 5, 2017

 

Hare Krishna!

 

Aneha koti namaskaram swami! Adiyen is not qualified to comment on the question but just tried to share the message from swami’s upanyasam.

Adiyen has no clue as to whats in vedas but here is some reference from Bhagavad gita itself. The duties and rituals are different for different varnas and different asramas. So the same ritual / duty does not have any ‘version’ perse but it is different for different people situated in different gunas. Guna is very much tied to varna in the sense, each varna exhibits a guna or a mix of gunas. Eg Brahmana is situated in satva guna, kshatriya in satva and rajo guna and so on. So one by elevating from one guna to another guna, indicates that his varna is also changing. Examples could be – Vishvamitra (kshatriya to brahmana), Dronacharya (brahmana to Kshatriya) etc., The intricacies of adherence to the rituals/duties will need to be discussed with respective acharyas/senior devotees.

 

Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu!

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vikraminside on August 6, 2017

Yes Guna and Ashrama makes sense. But Ashrama and veda does not make sense to adiyen.

Adiyen never heard certain veda is significant for certain Guna.

Though adiyen know Atharva shakha is mis-used for mal practices.

Anyway adiyen leave it here and see if any senior devotees takes this up.

Dasanudasan

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