PurAnam = Even as per Velukkudi Swami’s discourse purAnam means Very Old. That’s why it’s called purAnA. So ithihAsas take more precedence.

IthihAsa happened nearby when compared to purAnA.

Srimad BhAgavatham is based on Hari vamsam it seems.

It deals Krishna Charitra that includes chAndhogya Upanishad vAkya etc etc

It starts like this
VedaVyas Vyas not happy after writing lengthy Mahabharata, after the instructions of NArada Muni, sat down to write Srimad BhAgavatham.

In that, Sukhar preaching to Parikshit after event of war.

(Please correct me if wrong)

It’s all about Krishna. Krishna Leela continues in Mahabharata.

Then how come Srimad BhAgavatham a seperate purAnam altogether?

Dasanudasan

Sri:
Dhanyosmi for answering. So, Srimad Bhagavatham was born after IthihAsa. Which is confirmed as per devar’s answer. Adiyen is fine about purAna lakshana but wanted to understand what qualifies or differentiates a purAnA from an ithihAsa.

So, Srimad Bhagavatham is born after Mahabharata which signifies purAna is not older than IthihAsa as Swami used to quote.

Kshamikka prarthikkien, this is adiyen’s understanding.

“IthihAsa purAnAbyam vEda samupa brahmayeth” – Remembering this shloka.

Velukkudi quotes:
As per grammar It should have been “purAna IthihAsa byam”

Pu Ra Na only 3 letters
I thi ha sa four letters

As ithihAsam is more recent & significant

It happened like this = IthihAsa

So it takes precedence. Here confusion still persists when it comes to Srimad Bhagavatham.

The Shaivaite is going to the extent of calling Srimad bhAgavatham is a bogus theory. In maha pasupatashtra blog.

Dhanyosmi,
Dasanudasan

Srimatae Ramanujaya Namaha,

Adiyen Dasanudasan.

Ithihasam is written as and when it happens.

Puranam is capturing an OLDER EVENT, doesn’t mean Puranam is older than Ithihasam.

Materialistic example.

There are childhood school photos and family photos and unnecessary companion friends photos ( like Ithihasam, photos taken when it happened / Mahabharatam written as it happened with all unnecessary stories). Later when we are grown up and matured, when we try to compile the older photos (Ithihasam), at that time we eliminate the unnecessary photos and keep the necessary photos as an memorable album (like Puranas, VedaVyasar eliminated unnecessary stories of Mahabharatam and compiled in Srimad Bhagavata puranam as a memeroble album).

Nirai irundhaal, Adiyen’udaya Acharyar Krupa’yaalum, Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Anugrahathaalum.

Kurai irundhaal, Yennudaya Vipareetha Vaasanai’yaal.

Adiyen’ai shamikka prathikkiraen.

Adiyen has a vinappam to Devareer. If devareer is a Prapannan, then Please don’t focus on other blogs. Our focus should only on “Oran Vazhi Guru Paramparai” teachings as reinstated by Swami Ramanujar which is visible to us by Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami’s Upanyasams and Aasirvaadham. If not, this samsaram will drag us to padu kuzhi. Our focus is to get out of this cycle with Acharyar Krupai.

Adiyen Srinivasa Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi
Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam.

Nicely explained. yes its true that puranam need not be older than itihaasam. 

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

ElayaAlwar Swami, Venkatesh Swami,
Adiyenai kshamithu arula vendum.

Adiyen a simple prapannan trying to get mahavishwasam ongoing.

Vipareetha Gyaanam adangiya adiyen ippadi maati kolgiren

Pizhai poruthu arula vendum

Hayagrivan sthothrathil sonnadhu pol Perumal than nambikkaiyai asaikkaamal paarthu kolla vendum.

Dasanudasan
Thondar adi podi
Adiyen
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Nigamantha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Manavana Maa munigal Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Vikram Swami, Adiyen thangaludaya nilayil kooda illadhavan. Devareer ketkum kelvigalai kooda ketka theriyaadhavan. Thangaludaya sila Kelvigalai paarkum pozhudhu dhaan, “Oh ipdi kooda ketkalam pola iruke” nu Adiyenuku thondrum. Indha Adiyavanakkum Adiyavanai Swamy endru solli apachaara padaadheergal.. 

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Srimatae Ramanujaya Namaha,

Respected Vikram Swami,

Adiyen’s Dhanda Pranaamatthai Sweekarikka Prarthikkiraen.

Adiyen’s “vinnappam” itself is a big Apacharam that adiyen caused to Devareer. When adiyen said , “If devareer is a Prapannan” adiyen should have realized immediately that Devareer is already Acharyar Sothhu and SriPerumal Sotthu, whom am I to say “vinnappam” to a prapannan. Adiyenai vida mattamaanavan yaarum illai.

As Swami Desikan said in RahasyatrAya saAram, “Athma gunangal illathathaal; Indriya Nigraham illathathaal; Oraey koorain keezh Paampudan vasippadhaal”, adiyen made this mistake by saying “vinappam” and adiyen would like to do AparaAdha Pariharam to Devareer.

Looking at Devareer’s Bhakthi towards PoorvAcharyar’s ThiruvAdigal (Swami Maha Desikan & Swami ManavAla Maamunigal), adiyen has long way to go to attain Devareer’s Nishtai.

Devareer ThiruvAdigalukku Pallaandu,

SriVelukkudi Krishnan Swami adiyenai shamikka prarthikkiraen for adiyen’s ignorance.

Acharyar ThiruvAdigalaey Sharanam.

Adiyen Srinivasa Dasan,

Adiyen Charamavathi Dasan,

Ramanujan Yennai AandanAney,

Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam.