Swami’s “Vaartha Maalai” Upanyasam (11 Progressive stages in Spiritual path)

Chowkidhar KongilPiratti 1 0 on October 13, 2018

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Asmadh Sarva Gurubyo Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

Dear Aasthikas,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Arulaal, Asmadh Acharyan Krupaiyaal, adiyen would like to Share/Continue Swami Ammangi Ammal Vaarthai 244 for the remaining 8 progressive stages of the 11 stages in ones life based on Swami’s “Vaartha Maalai” upanyasam for the interested BhagavAtas.

Swami EmperumanaAr is Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami ThiruvAdigalaey Sharanam.

We have seen the 3 progressive stages above. In the 3rd stage “Udambgarai Pattri Soru theduvaarum” category, they read Vedas and misunderstand Swargam (Heaven) is the final destination/primary goal of life, but never realized the karma never ends, and didn’t realize that they have to take rebirth after time-out in Swargam.

Now, the 4th level of progression in maturity as below:

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4) உடம்பர்களை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்:

*This is similar as stage 2, but the maturity level is different in stage 4. Instead of just thinking about Bodily happiness for themselves and their family members as in Stage2, rather the Stage4 people think about enjoying in Swargam along with their family members.

As we kniw from stage3,

உடம்பர் means Udambai (body) udaya Swamiyaana “Athma” is realized in stage3.

*In this stage4, the person agrees and understands that they are “ATHMAS”. I’m Athma, my wife is athma, my son is Athma, all are Athmas, but wrongly understood that the ‘Athmas’ final destination is Swargham.

* Oh, I cannot be selfish about just myself enjoying in Swargam. Now, I need to start considering MY FAMILY too, my wife, father, mother, sister, brother, kids. neice, nephew so on….to enjoy in Swargam.

*So the person starts loooking in Vedas on how to reach Swargam. The method prescribed in shastras is to “ACCUMULATE PUNYA KARMAS” . In order to achieve this task, They do punya karmas like: kulam vettuvadhu (sponsor to make a pond for temple), Build a temple, do dhaanam, do yaaga yagyam, do thyaagam, help the poor in need etc…….All these things are good, but the BIGGEST MISTAKE they did is, they accumulated punya karmas for SELFISH REASONS, so they and their family members can reach Swargam (Heaven) WITHOUT Surrendering the punya karmas on SriKrishna’s lotus feet.

* They also doesn’t understand that after reaching Swargam, they cannot recall who was wife, htsband, son during their last Birth in Bhoomi/Earth. They are seperate Athmas who will be given different bodies to have PSEUDO-ENJOYEMENT in Swargam temperorily till their particular punya karmas are relinguished, then thrown back.

Still in Stage4 maturity level, they have NO BHagavAt BHakthi and NO Kainkaryam yet and they didnt realize, Swargam is a Temperory place in Samsaram (leela vibhoothi) which is also subject to destruction.

The other two major mathmas and so many in Sanarana dharmam itself do this stage4 activities “doing good things as said above” for their selfish reasons to reach the Pseudo-Enjoyement place Swargam (Heaven) as Primary goal/destination (சோறு) in their life without surrendering the punya karmas on BhagavAn’s lotus feet as “Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu”.

Edhu yellam Thaan “Udambharai” Pattri varum Uravugal.

The 5th level of progression in one’s maturity as below:

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5) லோகத்தை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்:

* Here they cross the misconception of Swargham as final goal, since they were thrown vack to Bhoomi after punya karmas got over.

* They still continue to do the same good things, but in a different perspective for “Loka nalan”.

* “ParopakaRarathaMitham Shareeram” is their Primary goal/Destination (சோறு) in their life.

Means doing ‘Paropakaaram‘ They understand, I will not do anything for myself or for my family members selfish reasons like the previous 4 stages. They think that, this body should be utilized to HELP OTHERS (பொதுநல தொண்டு) like a Philanthropist/Volunteer WITHOUT ANY SELFISH REASONS.

We can see in this practical world, masses of people Volunteering to just help others SELFLESSLY during some earthquake, or hurricane or flood like we saw in chennai, helping ‘Phtsically challenged’ persons etc…

* The stage5 mentality persons are better than the previous 4 stages persons. They are good persons, helps others selflessly, but there are DRAWBACKS that :

a) They didnot ‘realize‘ that these punya kaaryams are prescribed in Shastras by SriKrishna and they are PROPERTY OF BhagavAn and they didnot understand “I’m helping another person who is also a PROPERTY OF same BhagavAn”.
b) They didnot ‘surrender‘ the Punya phalams of their Paropakaram activities in “SriKrishnas lotus feet as “Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu”.

If they did these a&b, then they are the greatest persons, but they didnot do these two things. So they fall as Stage5. Hence they are termed as “Logatthai Pattri Soru Theduvarum”.

But, we Bhakthas need to all the activities of stage5 persons overcoming the above two drawbacks with Acharya krupai.

****************

Till now we have seen maturity level of persons who has considered satisfying “their Body” (stage1) then their family members bodily needs (stage2) and then understanding about Athma. Then again looking for a BETTER Body in Swargam for enjoyement better than in Bhoomi/Earth by considering Athmas destination is Swargam (stage3) and so on for their family members destination as Swargam by getting better body (stage4). Then considering the Body/Athma is for Helping Others with drawbacks as mentioned above (stage5).

All these above 5 stages are “AISHWARYA AARTHI” persons. They need both punya karmas to enjoy either in Bhoomi or in Swargam using Bodies.

But in stage 3,4&5, the person was always combining the satisfaction of ‘Body and Athma’ together.

The 6th level of progression in maturity as below:

**************************

6) உயிரை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்:

But in this Stage6, the person Really starts seperating the Body and Athma, and starts focussing Primarily on Athma and gives less importance to Bodily needs.

*They consider, that Shareeram is Not important. Need to get out of this Body.

* They consider, that they dont need any Punya/Paapa Karmas. Need to get out these Karmas.

The one in this Stage6 are called as KAIVALYA AARTHI. Means “Athma Anubhava Kaaman“.

* They enjoy only the Athma and DON”T like the BOdy Enjoyement. They are called as AShareeri (means NO Body).

* They will also cross all the 12 lokams and cross the Stahya Lokam in One Andam and then they cross the Virajai Nadhi which seperates the Samsaram (Leela Vibhoothi) and SriVaikuntam, but they DOn’t enter the SriVaikuntam to do kainkaryam to BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn, instead they ARE STUCK IN A CORNER in SriVaikuntam DOING SELF-ENJOYEMENT of Athma ALONE (Athma Anubhava Kaaman) due to their own requiremnt while in Bhoolokam (poor guys).

[Swami says, we are lucky, that we are not Kaivalya Aarthiu, sicne for Kaivalyam also, ther eis shatric procedures, but presently there are No Acharya Sampradhayams doing Kaivalya Aarthi. SO, that itself is a big bonus in thsi kali yuga that even if anyone wishes to be a Kaivalya Aarthi, there are NO Acharyas who has do such samskaram for them.].

So the stage 6 perosns destination/Primary goal (சோறு) is Self-Enjoyement of Athma ALONE.

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Recap till now:

Swami Ammangi Ammal Vaarthai 244 from Swami’s “Vaartha Maalai” Upanyasam,

Hence, ‘சோறு’ here in these 11 satements is not literally ‘food’, but ‘Purusharttham’ (means, Ones own Likes (Icchai)/ Destination (Lakshyam/Goal)/ Desires that they like VERY MUCH).

Yedhai Pattri, Yedhai ANubhavikka Paarkkirroam is the (சோறு /Goal) here.

Swami Ammangi Ammaal says that, in this materialistic world, there are different types of people having different types of desires (சோறு).

1) உடம்பை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

2) உறவுமுறை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

3) உடம்பரை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

4) உடம்பர்களை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

5) லோகத்தை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

6) உயிரை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

7) அவனை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

8) அவளை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

9) தன்னையும் அவனையும் பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

10) தன்னையும் அவனையும் அவளையும் பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

11) அவனையும் அவளையும் பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்,

Stage 1) We think Shareeram is important, so satisfying the Bodily needs is the Primary Goal (No Athma Gyanam yet).

Stage 2) Not just take care of my body, but satisfy all my family members bodily needs as well is the Primary goal (No Athma Gyanam yet).

Stage 3) Understood Athma is the owner of this Body, so misunderstanding that the Athma’s destination is to reach Swargam (Heavan) is the Primary goal.

Stage 4) Not only I should reach Swargam, but also all my family members should Swargam and starts acculumating Punya karmas by doing good things to reach Swargam (Heavan) as Primary Goal.

Stage 5) Helping others selflessly is the Primary purpose of life with drawbacks as, NOT understanding that these needs to be done with a view point that BhagavAn has said us to do these in Shastras, and drawback as not surrendering the results of the punya karmas as “Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu’.

Stage 6) is Enjoying the AThma ALONE, Discarding the Body , and NO BHagavAt ANubhavam is the Primary Goal in their life.

[Swami says, if one decides to be BHAKTHA, then we should SKIP this Stage6, since if one is in either of the 5 stages of being AISHWARYA AARTHI , there is always a possiblity to come back and take a Janma to get a body and do Sharangathy on BhagavAn’s lotus feet and get Moksham Sri Vaikuntam, for Stga6 Kaivalya Aarthi, there is NO come back, sicne the AThma is already crossed Virajai Nadhi and enjoying self in a corner without Kainkaryam to BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn].

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So, All these above 1st 5 stages are AISHWARYA AARTHI persons.

The stage 6 is KAIVALYA AARTHI. perons. (this is more dangerous as there is NO coming back).

In next stages 7 through 11, we will see different types of BhagavallabhArthi persons based on Swami’s “Vaartha Maalai Upanyasam. Please listen to Swami’s Thiruvaakku, Swami’s Speech is mesmerising.

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Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami to forgive adiyen for any errors or adiyens misunderstanding and Devareer to continue blessing more for adiyen to continue listing the remaining 5 stages (7 thur’ 11) in this forum.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Pinbhu Azhagiya Perumal Jeeyar Swami Ki Jai,

Ammangi Ammal Swami Ki Jai,

Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu

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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha, 
Asmadh Sarva Gurubyo Namaha, 
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha, 
  
Dear Aasthikas, 
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Arulaal, Asmadh Acharyan Krupaiyaal, adiyen would like to Share/Continue Swami Ammangi Ammal Vaarthai 244 for the remaining 8 progressive stages of the 11 stages in ones life based on Swami's "Vaartha Maalai" upanyasam for the interested BhagavAtas. 
Swami EmperumanaAr is Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami ThiruvAdigalaey Sharanam. 
We have seen the 3 progressive stages above. In the 3rd stage "Udambgarai Pattri Soru theduvaarum" category, they read Vedas and misunderstand Swargam (Heaven) is the final destination/primary goal of life, but never realized the karma never ends, and didn't realize that they have to take rebirth after time-out in Swargam. 
Now, the 4th level of progression in maturity as below: 
**************** 
  
4) உடம்பர்களை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்: 
  
*This is similar as stage 2, but the maturity level is different in stage 4. Instead of just thinking about Bodily happiness for themselves and their family members as in Stage2, rather the Stage4 people think about enjoying in Swargam along with their family members. 
As we kniw from stage3, 
உடம்பர் means Udambai (body) udaya Swamiyaana "Athma" is realized in stage3. 
*In this stage4, the person agrees and understands that they are "ATHMAS". I'm Athma, my wife is athma, my son is Athma, all are Athmas, but wrongly understood that the 'Athmas' final destination is Swargham. 
* Oh, I cannot be selfish about just myself enjoying in Swargam. Now, I need to start considering MY FAMILY too, my wife, father, mother, sister, brother, kids. neice, nephew so on….to enjoy in Swargam. 
*So the person starts loooking in Vedas on how to reach Swargam. The method prescribed in shastras is to "ACCUMULATE PUNYA KARMAS" . In order to achieve this task, They do punya karmas like: kulam vettuvadhu (sponsor to make a pond for temple), Build a temple, do dhaanam, do yaaga yagyam, do thyaagam, help the poor in need etc.......All these things are good, but the BIGGEST MISTAKE they did is, they accumulated punya karmas for SELFISH REASONS, so they and their family members can reach Swargam (Heaven) WITHOUT Surrendering the punya karmas on SriKrishna's lotus feet. 
* They also doesn't understand that after reaching Swargam, they cannot recall who was wife, htsband, son during their last Birth in Bhoomi/Earth. They are seperate Athmas who will be given different bodies to have PSEUDO-ENJOYEMENT in Swargam temperorily till their particular punya karmas are relinguished, then thrown back. 
Still in Stage4 maturity level, they have NO BHagavAt BHakthi and NO Kainkaryam yet and they didnt realize, Swargam is a Temperory place in Samsaram (leela vibhoothi) which is also subject to destruction. 
  
The other two major mathmas and so many in Sanarana dharmam itself do this stage4 activities "doing good things as said above" for their selfish reasons to reach the Pseudo-Enjoyement place Swargam (Heaven) as Primary goal/destination (சோறு) in their life without surrendering the punya karmas on BhagavAn's lotus feet as "Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu". 
  
Edhu yellam Thaan "Udambharai" Pattri varum Uravugal. 
The 5th level of progression in one's maturity as below: 
**************** 
  
5) லோகத்தை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்: 
  
* Here they cross the misconception of Swargham as final goal, since they were thrown vack to Bhoomi after punya karmas got over. 
* They still continue to do the same good things, but in a different perspective for "Loka nalan". 
* "ParopakaRarathaMitham Shareeram" is their Primary goal/Destination (சோறு) in their life. 
Means doing 'Paropakaaram' They understand, I will not do anything for myself or for my family members selfish reasons like the previous 4 stages. They think that, this body should be utilized to HELP OTHERS (பொதுநல தொண்டு) like a Philanthropist/Volunteer WITHOUT ANY SELFISH REASONS. 
We can see in this practical world, masses of people Volunteering to just help others SELFLESSLY during some earthquake, or hurricane or flood like we saw in chennai, helping 'Phtsically challenged' persons etc... 
* The stage5 mentality persons are better than the previous 4 stages persons. They are good persons, helps others selflessly, but there are DRAWBACKS that : 
<ol> 
<li>a) They didnot 'realize' that these punya kaaryams are prescribed in Shastras by SriKrishna and they are PROPERTY OF BhagavAn and they didnot understand "I'm helping another person who is also a PROPERTY OF same BhagavAn".</li> 
<li>b) They didnot 'surrender' the Punya phalams of their Paropakaram activities in "SriKrishnas lotus feet as "Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu".</li> 
</ol> 
  
If they did these a&b, then they are the greatest persons, but they didnot do these two things. So they fall as Stage5. Hence they are termed as "Logatthai Pattri Soru Theduvarum". 
But, we Bhakthas need to all the activities of stage5 persons overcoming the above two drawbacks with Acharya krupai. 
**************** 
Till now we have seen maturity level of persons who has considered satisfying "their Body" (stage1) then their family members bodily needs (stage2) and then understanding about Athma. Then again looking for a BETTER Body in Swargam for enjoyement better than in Bhoomi/Earth by considering Athmas destination is Swargam (stage3) and so on for their family members destination as Swargam by getting better body (stage4). Then considering the Body/Athma is for Helping Others with drawbacks as mentioned above (stage5). 
  
All these above 5 stages are "AISHWARYA AARTHI" persons. They need both punya karmas to enjoy either in Bhoomi or in Swargam using Bodies. 
But in stage 3,4&5, the person was always combining the satisfaction of 'Body and Athma' together. 
  
The 6th level of progression in maturity as below: 
************************** 
  
6) உயிரை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும்: 
  
But in this Stage6, the person Really starts seperating the Body and Athma, and starts focussing Primarily on Athma and gives less importance to Bodily needs. 
*They consider, that Shareeram is Not important. Need to get out of this Body. 
* They consider, that they dont need any Punya/Paapa Karmas. Need to get out these Karmas. 
The one in this Stage6 are called as KAIVALYA AARTHI. Means "Athma Anubhava Kaaman". 
* They enjoy only the Athma and DON"T like the BOdy Enjoyement. They are called as AShareeri (means NO Body). 
* They will also cross all the 12 lokams and cross the Stahya Lokam in One Andam and then they cross the Virajai Nadhi which seperates the Samsaram (Leela Vibhoothi) and SriVaikuntam, but they DOn't enter the SriVaikuntam to do kainkaryam to BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn, instead they ARE STUCK IN A CORNER in SriVaikuntam DOING SELF-ENJOYEMENT of Athma ALONE (Athma Anubhava Kaaman) due to their own requiremnt while in Bhoolokam (poor guys). 
[Swami says, we are lucky, that we are not Kaivalya Aarthiu, sicne for Kaivalyam also, ther eis shatric procedures, but presently there are No Acharya Sampradhayams doing Kaivalya Aarthi. SO, that itself is a big bonus in thsi kali yuga that even if anyone wishes to be a Kaivalya Aarthi, there are NO Acharyas who has do such samskaram for them.]. 
  
So the stage 6 perosns destination/Primary goal (சோறு) is Self-Enjoyement of Athma ALONE. 
************************************ 
  
Recap till now: 
Swami Ammangi Ammal Vaarthai 244 from Swami's "Vaartha Maalai" Upanyasam, 
Hence, ‘சோறு’ here in these 11 satements is not literally ‘food’, but ‘Purusharttham’ (means, Ones own Likes (Icchai)/ Destination (Lakshyam/Goal)/ Desires that they like VERY MUCH). 
Yedhai Pattri, Yedhai ANubhavikka Paarkkirroam is the (சோறு /Goal) here. 
Swami Ammangi Ammaal says that, in this materialistic world, there are different types of people having different types of desires (சோறு). 
  
1) உடம்பை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
2) உறவுமுறை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
3) உடம்பரை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
4) உடம்பர்களை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
5) லோகத்தை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
6) உயிரை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
7) அவனை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
8) அவளை பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
9) தன்னையும் அவனையும் பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
10) தன்னையும் அவனையும் அவளையும் பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
11) அவனையும் அவளையும் பற்றி சோறு தேடுவாரும், 
  
Stage 1) We think Shareeram is important, so satisfying the Bodily needs is the Primary Goal (No Athma Gyanam yet). 
Stage 2) Not just take care of my body, but satisfy all my family members bodily needs as well is the Primary goal (No Athma Gyanam yet). 
Stage 3) Understood Athma is the owner of this Body, so misunderstanding that the Athma's destination is to reach Swargam (Heavan) is the Primary goal. 
Stage 4) Not only I should reach Swargam, but also all my family members should Swargam and starts acculumating Punya karmas by doing good things to reach Swargam (Heavan) as Primary Goal. 
Stage 5) Helping others selflessly is the Primary purpose of life with drawbacks as, NOT understanding that these needs to be done with a view point that BhagavAn has said us to do these in Shastras, and drawback as not surrendering the results of the punya karmas as "Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu'. 
Stage 6) is Enjoying the AThma ALONE, Discarding the Body , and NO BHagavAt ANubhavam is the Primary Goal in their life. 
[Swami says, if one decides to be BHAKTHA, then we should SKIP this Stage6, since if one is in either of the 5 stages of being AISHWARYA AARTHI , there is always a possiblity to come back and take a Janma to get a body and do Sharangathy on BhagavAn's lotus feet and get Moksham Sri Vaikuntam, for Stga6 Kaivalya Aarthi, there is NO come back, sicne the AThma is already crossed Virajai Nadhi and enjoying self in a corner without Kainkaryam to BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn]. 
********************************************* 
  
So, All these above 1st 5 stages are AISHWARYA AARTHI persons. 
The stage 6 is KAIVALYA AARTHI. perons. (this is more dangerous as there is NO coming back). 
In next stages 7 through 11, we will see different types of BhagavallabhArthi persons based on Swami's "Vaartha Maalai Upanyasam. Please listen to Swami's Thiruvaakku, Swami's Speech is mesmerising. 
*********************************** 
  
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami to forgive adiyen for any errors or adiyens misunderstanding and Devareer to continue blessing more for adiyen to continue listing the remaining 5 stages (7 thur' 11) in this forum. 
  
Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan, 
Pinbhu Azhagiya Perumal Jeeyar Swami Ki Jai, 
Ammangi Ammal Swami Ki Jai, 
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi, 
Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu

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Chowkidhar KongilPiratti 1 0 on October 13, 2018

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

Dear Bhagavata,
Adiyen is only Swami’s SriPadha Thuli.

So adiyen surrender all on Swami’s lotus feet as
“Sarvam Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami ThiruvAdiyil Samarpanam”.

Bhagavatas porumaikku pallandu for reading the thread.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan.
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrishna Kudumbham.

Badrinarayana Ramanuja Dasan 0 on October 14, 2018

இது பரம அற்புதம் சுவாமி?
Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan
Velukkudi Swamigal Thiruvadigale Saranam ?

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ElayaAlwar 0 0 on September 2, 2019

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Adiyaargal Thiruvadigalukku Pallandu.
Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami Thiruvadigalaey Sharanam.
Adiyen Charamavathi Dasan (Dasan to the last Pure Dasan of Perumal GuruParamparai ThiruvAdi).

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