Adiyen not coming back Swamy
Podhum this Sath Sangam.

Adiyen going to help poor people/students/old age homes and backward people and do some better things in life

Adiyen feel this society needs a makeover.

People worshipping reel heroes not real heroes.

In the name of Perumal we still keep fighting what’s the point of all these years association?

I am sorry for all my stupid posts to all Inc kk using devareer.

Dhanyosmi

Dasanudasan

*including devareer

Vikram swamy come soon at next year January. I am waiting. You’re QnA are really motivated me to stay in divine forum and ask questions. Perumal need you here

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Adiyen beleive

“I should control social media not other way round”.

Adiyen only forum is Dharma Sandeha. Deleted all my social media comments & accounts many years back.

All youtube etc discussions are vyartham. Completely waste.

Adiyen watch but don’t waste my time posting how much ever compelled.

As this is Sath Sangam & Perumal forum am posting.

That too if adiyen feel am doing more apachAram then will stop.

Thanks for your concern. Let’s understand one thing “self respect” is different from “ego”.

abhiprAyam bedham can occur but that should not hurt anyone’s self respect. Of course Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy has not taught us to say “தற்குரி” or “disgraceful” to disrespect anyone.

That’s a sign of immaturity. I had chance of reading SriVaishNava Dasan’s Swamy’s post yesterday.

Asking sorry to Udayavar etc. Then realised you all people were taken by his sympathy & started attacking me.

Why are we doing drama here?

If I said something “Shaastram says like this” to Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy ‘s response wouldn’t you people have roasted me?

Same applies to my response quoting Udayavar
“BrahmaNi SrinivAsE”

I asked on same scale. Let’s better stick to basics.

✓Brahmam is full of Form
✓Brahmam always SaGuNam

Adiyen learned from another BhAgavatha today
✓mukthAthmA attains sAroopyam in moksham
✓ MukhtAhma Swaroopam in moksham is as blemish free as perumal himself

Swamy Desikan clarifies further of RamanujA Swamy’s view
Brahmam is SaguNam only

Therefore nAma Roopa Bedham exists

Bedham is our philosophy

“Aruvam Kaatiya Uruvam” titling is completely wrong

Aruvam will not show uruvam. Saying Perumal as aruvam is like disrespecting him according to me.

Is Aruvam NArAyaNan?

NammAzhWAr asked to show not because Brahmam is formless but because he could not recognise Brahmam’s form

There is a big difference.

Let’s stick to topic.

You can even ignore me that’s a better way 🙂

Dasanudasan

“Aruvam Kaatiya Uruvam” titling is completely wrongFrom vikraminside

வீரம் காட்டிய ராமன்

அருவம் காட்டிய நாராயணன்

அருவம் காட்டிய உருவம்.

கோவம் காட்டிய விக்ரம்

கருணை காட்டிய ஆச்சார்யன்

பொறுமை காட்டிய நண்பர்கள்

புரிதலில் ஏற்பட்ட தவறை உணர்ந்த விக்ரம்.

மகிழ்ச்சி காட்டிய  நண்பர்கள்.

Swami,

None of us here in this forum believe that arupam (nirguna) is satyam.

Adiyen believes arupam (nirguna) can neither be the ‘means’ nor the ‘end’.

In fact, it brings so much fear to even think that brahmam can be nirgunam. But this is not the fear of getting punished for that very thought, but it is the fear of “what will I do with such a nirguna brahmam”?

All of us interpreted the comments exchanged in the relevant threads as equivalent to “invisible” only.

English, as a language, has limited comprehension of our original (Tamil or Samskrutam) terms. Unfortunately, we use it in various forums only for the dexterity of typing. I think ‘formless’ is an inappropriate translation of ‘arupam’.

Jayaram Swami asked, “what is the name of that ‘invisible’ entity”. 

Velukkudi Swami quoted NammAzhwAr’s pAsuram to let us know such a term exists! That’s it!

Did anyone in this forum say that the entity is “nirgunam”?

– Adiyen

“All of us interpreted the comments exchanged in the relevant threads as equivalent to ‘invisible’ only.”

If not for everyone in the forum, at least I can speak for myself that adiyen equated ‘arupam’ to ‘invisible’ only.

– Adiyen

🙂

புரிதலில் ஏற்பட்ட தவறை உணர்ந்த விக்ரம்.
மகிழ்ச்சி காட்டிய  நண்பர்கள்.From கம்பன்தாசன்

😊

That’s all? just a blushing emoji as if saying “meesela mannu ottala paaru!”

No expression of regret? no apology to those whom you have hurt because you failed to pay attention to what they are actually saying, because you were busy absorbed in your own thoughts and interpretations? No apology for all the repeated tantrums? no expression of apology for the aparadh to even our Swamy for projecting as if he is deviating from Ramanuja darshanam?

I am amazed how someone can be so non cha lant! 

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Adiyen never said “Tharkuri”.
Also adiyen never accepted Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy ‘s title. Just acknowledged as it is his view point as he asked me to be “open minded & not conclude before debating”.

Secondly, Jayaram Swamy also concluded “Shastram clearly says aruvam” & you did not point out his mistakes because he is Tenkalai.

Even Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy not responding to adiyen because am “Vadakalai”. What else I can say?

Else why will someone encourage people like devareer to post nonsense in this forum for a matter which already over?

Brahmam is uruvam only. According to Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy let it be aruvam. He is my Guru so I am thanking him not because he answered correctly but because he is my Guru.

Dasanudasan