Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
For the initial question
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Shareeram achith – So no point in Upadesham
Athma Chith – Already nyAna Swaroopan, no point in Upadesham
Why confuse all of us?
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This is Perfectly True for NithyAthma and MukAthma and not for BhaddAthma.
NithyAthma:
Always in SriVaikunta (Nithya Vibhoothi) with no karma vaasana of Samsaram (Leela Vibhoothi).
MukAthma:
A BhaddAthma who reached Nithya Vibhoothi from Leela Vibhoothi through one of the ways while in Leela Vibhoothi.
Either by following:
1) Upasana Maargam (Karma, Gyanam, Bhakthi yoga which is very Tough to do), Or,
2) Sharanagathy Maargam (Falling in lotus feet of SriKrishna THE SUPREME ALMIGHTY GOD through the proper procedure and following it thoroughly, which is TOUGHER than Upasana Margham)
3) Ramanuja Sambhandham (Having a relationship with Swami RamanujAr either by doing Samasrayanam or Nyasam through any of HIS AcharyA lineages or having relationship with Swami RamanujAr through one of the 18 ways), so that the SriKrishna gives Moksham due to our relationship with Swami RamanujAr and not because of our Bhakthi or Sharanagathy, which is the EASIEST PATH for Moksham.
BhaddAthma:
The Athma which is covered by,
1) Karmas,
2) Vaasanas
3) Prakrithi Sambhandham,
4) Mixture of Sativa, Rajo, Tamo gunas,
5) Ruchi ( Interest in doing material through due to Vaasanas)
Analogy,
Diamond 💎 = Athma (Only Gyana Swaroopam, all of us), covered with DIRT (the above Five).
Upadesams = Cleaning 🧹 the above FIVE,
so that the Diamond’s natural glowing capacity is revealed and it doesn’t require to impart light, since Diamond is “SELF GLOWING (Gyana Swaroopam)”.
Since we are still BhaddAthma in Leela Vibhoothi, we NEED UPADESAMS (Spiritual Advice), so that we can get Gyanam to overcome the above Five and start following one of the Three Maargams for Moksham so that we can become as MukAthma. At that time, yes, we ALL will be only “Gyana swaroopam”, then we don’t need UPADESAMS.
Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayacharyAr) Dasan.