Transformation of Jadaporul-Athma one or many?

Updated on November 28, 2017 in General
5 on November 25, 2017

Namaskaram to Velukkudi Swami,

Adiyen heard from swami’s Kannanin Aaramudhu that athma exist within non living things also but it has no Gnyanam.

Adiyen’s question is if a non living object is transformed or damaged (Eg ice changing to water (or) brick broken into numerous small pieces) will athma be the same or each new piece gets a new athma.

If adiyen has understood wrongly adiyenai kshamikka prarthikiren.

Adiyen Dasan

 
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Namaskaram

Can you please clarify again if there is soul or Supersoul in achit ..as far I have heard it is stated Supersoul is there inside every atom..additionally presence of soul makes it living entity.
Knowledge is a feature of soul. So there cannot be a soul without knowledge.
Please clarify

Thanks

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Namaskaram

Adiyen is new to learning about athma and related concepts.
Adiyen will be grateful if bhaktha could explain about the supersoul and soul difference.

Adiyen

on November 25, 2017

Namakaram

Based on what i have heard from acharayas and what I have read from books, it is stated that Bhagawan expands into supersoul into every atom. This expansion of Bhagawan is known as super soul. He is one person Bhagawan who resides in spiritual world but also expands himself as super soul into every atom in this material world.

super soul is referred to as paramatma in tamil/sanskrit.

He also accompanies the individual soul in his journey in material world.

So in our heart, where the soul resides , the Paramatma also resides there , like two birds sitting in a tree. We are the one who are doing karma and eating the fruits of the tree (body). The other bird super soul just watches us and gives permission and patiently waits when we will look up to Him.

Supersoul is also present in non-sentient  , acit , (non- living beings) but there is no other separate individual soul in acit.

But since the supersoul present in all atoms is the same person, Bhagawan when the material energy  transforms it does not affect the same individual person, in fact the transformation can occur only under his permission!

Hope it clarifies your question.

Adiyen

 

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0 on November 25, 2017

Thank you very much for your wonderful explanation swami

Adiyen

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0 on November 28, 2017

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

This question requires further detailed answer. Krishna have moksham to pot.

Dhadhipanda was graced at that time by the Lord and he realized that Sri Krishna was the supreme. So, he told Krishna “O Krishna! Only if You promise to give me moksha, will I let you out”. After a short argument Krishna agreed to it Not satisfied, Dhadhipanda also asked for moksha for his pot and Krishna acquiesced. As promised, Krishna gave moksha to both Dhadhipanda and his pot.

Reference:
https://kazhiyurvaradan.wordpress.com/2014/03/29/48/amp/

Similarly, ahalya Devi was transformed into a stone or “unseen” to be precise. So a soul does not depend on visibility.

So how come pot was given moksham if it doesn’t have individual soul?

“but there is no other separate individual soul in acit.” this requires more detailing.

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami please clarify
Adiyen
Dasanudasan

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