Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri Velukkudi Ranganathan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Swamy
What is the difference between seeing Krishna as everything and everything as Krishna?
Dasanudasan
Srimate Raamanujaye Namaha!
Swamy you probably wanted to ask ” Krishna in everything” vs ” everything as Krishna”?
I feel like diffenrece is as between Vishista Adwaitam Vs Adwaitam.
Cit and Acit are body of Krishna..so soul is present in every part of the body, body is active by soul.So Krishna is in every cit and acit and activates them. this is “Krishna in Everything”
“Everything as Krishna” is stating that all cit and acit all eventually merge into one undifferentiated Brahman..so everything is Brahmam , everything is Krishna which is adwaita Philosophy.
Adiyen
Thirukachidaasanudsan
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
If Adiyen remember according to Velukkudi Ranganathan Swamy (I will share that video)
In one of the vidhyas , a Brahmin wants to teach Brahmam
He says 🌞 sun is Brahmam, moon 🌛 is Brahmam and fails to intrepret it correctly.
Whereas the one who was supposed to be taught says “Brahmam as everything”.
Adiyen started the question with “in” but intentionally changed to “as”.
PerumAL is self manifested into Creation. By negating creation from PerumAL it becomes a seperate entity.
Both Creation and Chith are shareeram to PerumaL.
PerumAL & creation or no seperate.
Adiyen want to know ,
“if we see Bedham” it does not become Krishna?
“If we see abedham” – It becomes Krishna?
But
Both Bedham and Abedham are bridged by Ghatakam then why one view point is incorrect and another viewpoint is correct?
When Hiranyakashipu asked “Is Hari in this pillar?”
PrahlAdhan said “SriHari is ALSO in this pillar”
தூணிலும் உளன்
That “um” is very important it seems.
Velukkudi Swamy said “The question was with respect to ONLY that pillar” but the answer was “ALSO this pillar” because nAsthikAs may misintrepret the answer in future and say “Your PrahlAdhan said your Hari is in this pillar not the other pillars”
As Devareer’ rightly said “AntharyAmi is inside everything”
Why is it difficult vto interpret “Pillar Brahmam” or “Chair Brahmam” ?
Thirukkudanthai Andavan shared a story of a Patti “அந்த கத்திரிக்காய் பிரஹ்மதை எண்ணெய் பிரஹ்மத்தில் போடு”
Krishna Premi Anna also once said ” Don’t see everything as Krishna , see Krishna as everything it will be easy”
கண்ணன் சாப்பிட்டார் மகரிஷிகள் பசி போனது
சுக பிரஹ்மம் சாப்பிட்டார் 1000 முறை மணி அடித்தது
1 முறை மணி அடித்தால் 1000 மனிதர்கள் தர்மரின் அன்னதானதில் சாபிட்டதற்கு சமம்
அது என்ன நிலை?
வித்தியாசம் தெரிந்தால் பிரம்மம் தெரியாதா?
பிரம்மம் தெரிந்தால் வித்தியாசம் தெரியாதா?
Adiyen got answer in Velukkudi Ranganathan Swamy UpanyAsam 16th vidhya ஜ்தயாதிஷாம்
ஜ்தயாதிர் வித்வய
As all entities have a fault, like Sun will set, man will sleep , it will be difficult to comprehend “everything as Krishna’
Dhanyosmi EnpaniFan Swamy & Ranganathan Swamy
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🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇
Dasanudasan
* ஜ்தயாதிஷாம்
ஜ்தயாதிர் வித்வய
Adiyen copy oasted from pdf but is coming wrongly as above
It is:
ஜ்யோதிஷம் ஜ்யோதிர் வித்யை
BG 9.4: “By Me, in My unmanifested form, this entire universe is pervaded. All beings are in Me, but I am not in them.”
https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/9/4/
is the relevant verse to your question swamy.
Adiyen
Thirukachidaasanudasan
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Not sure how to take “I am not in them” Swamy.
He is antharyAmi so he should be in/as/outside everything
Anthar Bahischa tat sarvam
Dasanudasan
Srimate Raamanujaye Namaha!
Swamy my understanding is , His presence as supersoul is present in all cit and acit..but his complete opulence as Bhagawaan is not present inside everything..
Like our consciousness is present in our finger , but finger on its own cannot be called as us
Adiyen
Thirukacidaasanudasan
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Dhanyosmi for all the responses Adiyen
EnpaniFan Swamy & Sri Udayavar Swamy
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Againfor me this will take days to digest.
Complicated discussion to comprehend
Dasanudasan
If Adiyen remember, Velukkudi Swamy will do Bhagavath Gita UpanyAsam once again.
Please hear / study Bhagavad Gita 6.25 to 6.31, with 6.30 being the central slokam in relation to discussion in this thread.
adiyen dasan.
