Srimath Varavara munaye namaha

1) Yes, all vadakalai and Thenkalai acharyas are ramanuja sambandhis and this is a well known fact by everyone.

2) How do we get Ramanuja sambandham? Only By taking pancha samskaram under any one of the acharyas hailing from 74 simhasanadipatis. This was the rule ordered by ramanuja.

After sharanagati on panguni uthiram day, Bhagavath ramanuja established 74 simhasanadipatis to do pancha samskaram.
Those who got pancha samskaram they will be connected with ramanuja. Pancha samskaram is a must because, it was ordered by ramanujar himself.

👉 Did ramanuja anywhere insisted “Bharanyasam ” ?

👉Did ramanuja anywhere asked those 74 simhasanadipatis to perform “Bharanyasam “?

👉Did ramanuja anywhere asked his sambandhis to undergo bharanyasam ?

3) Yes swamy, there is nothing wrong in taking bharanyasam but the question was ” Did ramanuja anywhere insisted his sambandhis to undergo bharanyasam ?”

( Note : My objective is not to raise thenkalai or vadakalai issue, as we all are ramanuja sambandhis. But my motive is to know the reason, objective and the pramana from ramanujar’s work )

If I’m wrong devareer kindly pardon me 🙏

Adiyen Varavara muni bruthya dasan 🙏

Swamy, in one of the forum devareer said :

“Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Swamy,

BhAgavathAs need to understand we are siblings. Difference of opinion does not mean enemity. We are thinkers, Sri Velukkudi Krishnan swamy has said

“Paguthu Arivadhu = Pagutharivu”

So we are encouraged to think and not blindly believe.

Dasanudasan”

– vikraminside.

Here I’m just about my views and asking about your views.
If I hurted devareer, I beg on your feet ” kindly forgive me ”

Dasan

Swamy, I never compared any acharyas.

I just compared interpretations and ideology.

AchAryAs follow ideology. Sunlight cannot be separated from Sun.
Dasanudasan

Maamunigal sonnadhu correcta?
Desikan sonnadhu correcta?

Your question itself arised why Bharayanyasam?

Both follow Ramanujar ideology in my opinion
Dasanudasan

Swamy desikan in Srimad Rahasya Traya saram compared swamy pillai lokacharya’s interpretations and ideology.

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha

Swamy,
Swamy Desikan would have compared even Sri Adi Shankarar to do:

“Para Matha Bhangam”
“Shatha Dushani”

Swamy Desikan is – Tirumalai Ghanta AvathAram
Swamy Desikan is – Sarva Tantra Swathanthrar awarded by ThAyAr herself

Swamy Desikan goes by Ramanujar’s footsteps

Also the differential thinking arise that is why a Kalai itself was formed

Then Kalai = SriRangam (South)
Vada Kalai = Kanchipuram (North)

Adiyen understand devareer’s question lately but initially it sounded as if BharanyAsam was something not specified by Udayavar , so why such practice?

Hope my Acharyan would have clarified:
“nin adiye ninaindhu irundheney” – paadalai (nyAnAn Moksha:)
“Nin adi keezh amarndhu pugundhEnEy” – idhukku mela enna venum?

So an effort from our end is required.

Please listen to audio repeatedly, devareer might get additional answers.

The question should have been more open ended what is the significance of “BharanyAsam”?

Umakku onnu theriyumA?
Before BharanyAsam – Perumal kitta en AchAryan utharavu keppar

Enakku first utharavu kidaikala – Perumalukku adiyen Mela avlo kobam nu ninaikaren.

Few weeks later, second time, after my Acharyan’s repeated request to Perumal adiyen got utharavu. May be my AchAryan would have pleaded , “indha payyana naan nal Vazhi padutharen”.

Adiyen strongly believe in BharanyAsam. I haven’t told this secret to anyone..Even to my wife. As this EnPaNi is precious I am telling to everyone.

BharanyAsam is not simple procedure. It has some direct interaction with Perumal.

Dasanudasan

Please forgive adiyen additional blabbering except my Acharyan related
Dasanudasan